I can get the Teocali for $250 cheaper and it seems to have better spec drivetrain, brakes and wheels. Reign has better shocks but I've read some bad reviews about the hubs and can't find anything on the rims.
The Teocali felt pretty fun but I'm a bit suss on the rear suspension performance/durability (googled reviews give mixed feedback).
I've done the carpark test but that obviously doesn't tell too much...
I have owned three Teocalis.......but only bought one! The first two suffered frame failure however the last (2009 model) was fine.
The pedalling action was very good and efficient however it certainly added to the weight. The back end weight is noticeable. Comparing it to the 2011 Trek Remedy I have now, there is a substantial difference in weight and even more so in handling. Any chance you can get your hands on a 2011 Remedy?
I haven't ridden the Giant but given the most recent review in Dirt (Jan 2012), it seems like a very good machine.
One important consideration that I read (and made sense after I got the Remedy) is that the action of the suspension linkage on the Teocali could potentially ramp up too much so as to never reach full travel (unless running low shock pressures). The description was more around bigger hits however.
The shocks on the reign are far better. Push your budget a bit further and get a Reign 1 - adjustable seat post, better front and rear shocks and drivetrain. Apparantly you can squeeze the shop and pick them up for $2k flat.
How much is the Mongoose?
Last edited by MRO; 20-02-2012 at 12:06 AM.
my02 - Cheers, that's the sort of thing I wanted to find out. The Teocali seemed ok but there just seemed to be so many linkages...plus I was a little freaked out by the way the bottom bracket actually moved with the rear triangle.
The Remedy is a cool bike but probably a bit much for what I need. I actually checked one out yesterday...beast of a bike.
I'm considering the Reign because it feels pretty close in weight to a Trance but still climbs alright and it's a fair bit cheaper. The Mongoose seemed a bit heavier too but cheaper again.
I might pick up a copy of that mag tomo and see what's what.
MRO - I would probably push my spending if I could get a 1 for 2k but my local doesn't want to budget from the $2150 20% off sale price.
Just a suggestion if you're open to other bikes, how about a 2011 Avanti torrent 2??? If you shop around you can get them for around the 2k mark. I think it would suit your needs, sought of between the trance and the reign, pedals well up hill and can handle the rough stuff going down.
my02 - everything you've said makes sense. I think I'll spring the extra for the Reign but I don't know if I'll stretch it all the way for a 1.The 1 definitely looks like its worth the extra $400 - $500 but I can't really justify the extra spend at the moment.
Capt.Gumby - thanks for the offer but I'm going to buy new. I figure that the lifetime frame warranty means I can justify upgrading things as they break/wear out in the future.
mason33 - the Torrent looks pretty much spot on for what I'd want (I think 150mm EDIT: OF THE REIGN might be a bit of overkill for what I need but the price is right) but the cheapest I can find a Torrent 2 in QLD is $2400 which is def out of my price range. Ideally it would be nice to pick up a 2011 something of that spec (brand isn't important) for 2K max like the Torrent you linked but I haven't been able to find anything.
A bit of a side note - I'm 5' 9" (maybe 5' 8.5") shorter legs, long torso and the Reign medium (17) seems ok but haven't been able to find anywhere to try a small (15). Does anyone know if I would definitely be a medium or should I try and locate a small to test?