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    Default 1x9; Is a chain guide necessary?

    Hi All,
    just after some advice on going 1x9. I'm building up a 1x9 29er & had assumed I'd need a chain guide like E13's. I'm looking at getting a Salsa 32 tooth chain ring & it mentions that it has raised teeth to prevent the chain from coming off. I'm just wondering if I have the Salsa ring will I need the E13 guide? Anyone else running 1x9 without a guide or with the Salsa ring? I'll be running it with a mid-cage XT derailuer if that makes any difference.
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    I have had a few OTB experiences from a dropped chain on a 1x9 or SS w/tensioner setup. Not fun. Get a 1X.
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    Definately need a chainguide of some type. The MRP1.X have got cheaper nowdays and they work well and weigh very little. No point risking not having one.

    You can get by without one on a SS because your chainline is straight, on a 1x9 your chainline can be quite an angle. Also over bumpy stuff, with a rear deuralleur flapping around your tension can get pretty lose and the chain will just pop off.
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    I'd run one.
    However, maybe the new clutch mechs will keep the chain on better if you don't ride that hardcore.
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    What about running a Widget chain ring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    What about running a Widget chain ring?
    I've got one of those, a 28t, need to go bigger though.

    The older ones don't have a very strong guide plate, because i've bent mine alot, and then just bent it back with some pliers if I needed to. But I haven't dropped my chain since I got it, and I sorta plough. The new ones are supposed to be alot stronger, and you can get decent strength bash plates for it if you so desire.

    I personally think that it's brilliant, wouldn't go anything else, but alot of people like to have a bitch about them because they've never used them or think that the one they use is the best because they say so. Personal opinion. Not saying the other guides are crap, but I love the Widget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taquar View Post
    I've got one of those, a 28t, need to go bigger though.

    The older ones don't have a very strong guide plate, because i've bent mine alot, and then just bent it back with some pliers if I needed to. But I haven't dropped my chain since I got it, and I sorta plough. The new ones are supposed to be alot stronger, and you can get decent strength bash plates for it if you so desire.

    I personally think that it's brilliant, wouldn't go anything else, but alot of people like to have a bitch about them because they've never used them or think that the one they use is the best because they say so. Personal opinion. Not saying the other guides are crap, but I love the Widget.

    NOTE. THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR DOWNHILL USE.
    +1 for Widgit. No setup, no problems. Love mine, but I don't use it like a bash ring. Did have a bit of chain suck with mine in some really nasty conditions at last years DW100, but a quick stop and a little lube on the chain and right as rain again.

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    The feedback that cSixx got from the PMB WCS was that the new Clutch mechs work great at stopping the chain de-rail from the bottom of the ring, but you still needed a top cage like these

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    While I've been waiting for exactly those CSixx guides to touch down in Oz I've been riding chainguide-less.

    In the two weeks of riding my bike near to everyday I've dropped my chain once. 70% of the riding has been commuting, but there has still been plenty of stairs, bumps, etc and a little "proper" mtbing. I was using a pre-clutch 10 spd shimano xtr derailleur which proved to be flawless, but that snapped so it got replaced with a 10spd clutchless SLX derraileur and again it's been flawless.

    I'm using a blackspire 32t chainring, 11-36 XTR cassette and XTR chain. I will put a chainguide on, as this bike is meant to cop more abuse than I've been giving it recently. But with these clutch equipped derailleurs coming out I would definitely consider no chain guide on an xc bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredden View Post
    I have had a few OTB experiences from a dropped chain on a 1x9 or SS w/tensioner setup. Not fun. Get a 1X.
    Hmm. Considering i can't ride my new awesome carbon 29er because of a chain slip incident on a road bike causing a broken collarbone, maybe i will install my Superstar XCR on this. But it looks so clean with no guide though!

    OP, this is exactly what you were after, but i can't test it yet!


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