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Thread: 2017 Banshee Phantom or Kona Process 111 Frame?

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    Default 2017 Banshee Phantom or Kona Process 111 Frame?

    gearing up to buy a FS 29er frame to replace my Banshee Paradox HT. the Paradox is fine, I'm just middle aged and creaky and need a more cushy ride than the HT.

    I'm thinking the Phantom might be better as the rear triangle should be very stiff with FA lateral flex. Anyone ridden a recent phantom or process 111? how did you find the ride on them?

    if I go Phantom, I'm not sure what shock CC (not sure which) or Monarch RT3 would be best for a heavy bugger like me 110kg...
    if I go Process, would the monarch RT shock be ok for my weight?

    already have a X=Fusion trace HLR fork to use. currently 120mm but can be set to 140mm max travel.

    Also, any idea what Cane Creek Angleset would suit these? ze germans seem to have a good selection inc the 1.5deg versions... CRC etc only seem to have the 1deg models
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    Can't comment on the Process Vs Phantom, either would be great.
    But to adjust the geo perhaps offset bushings are the way forward? Seen some awesome looking ones on offsetbushings.com (never used them but they seem really well made from what I can see).
    Just an option....

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    the offset bushings look like a cool low cost option. It might lower the BB a tad much(??) Phantom and Process BBs are already fairly low it seems.
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    I Cant comment on Phantom vs 111 but I do work in a shop that sells Kona and we haven't had one warranty issue with a single Kona. That says a lot about the brand.

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    Phantom has adjustable dropouts allowing for different HA's. Also allow for different hub standards.
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    Ive got the same 2 on my radar.
    Just before the process line came out I got a Satori which has been an awesome bike
    Then I was tempted to try the 27.5 and picked up a used spitfire frame.
    So I have relatives of each!
    Spitty is an Awesome bike but did not really blow me away after the Kona.

    I have had a quick spin on a 111DL which I gelled with instantly
    Not ridden a Phantom but would love to try one out.
    Kona geo changed a lot for 2017 a lot longer TT may be which fits you best.
    That said if it is of importance to you Phantom has a threaded BB

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatMuz View Post
    I've already got a Rune, so I'm really looking for a shorter travel trail bike for a different sort of ride feel.

    @ rsclio - threaded BB is a plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForkinGreat View Post
    ze germans seem to have a good selection
    Excuse my ignorance, who are ze Germans? I'm only familiar with UK stores

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono.r View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, who are ze Germans? I'm only familiar with UK stores
    Bike24. Bike-discount.de etc

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