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    Off yer bike - for the sake of all of us on the roads
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/o...422105845.html
    By Michael Duffy
    December 3, 2005

    IT'S TIME to get bikes off our roads. As a mainstream form of transport, the bicycle has proved itself the equivalent of communism: a lovely idea that failed dismally in practice. Bikes are dangerous to ride and slow traffic, which creates more pollution. For the good of all of us, we need to ban the bike.

    When Government started to encourage bike riding a few decades ago, it was like the balmy days after the Russian Revolution: the future looked golden. It was hoped that a significant proportion of all trips made in Sydney would soon be by bike.

    Where it all went wrong was that almost no one showed any enthusiasm to get on their bikes. Today, fewer than 1 per cent of all trips in Sydney are made by bike. The bike activists blame this on the paucity of bike lanes and tracks, but this is like Marxists excusing the failure of communism in the Soviet Union by blaming the nature of its regime. The sad truth is that in both cases a vanguard tried to impose a new form of behaviour on the populace and was rejected. The only difference is that the bike lobby hasn't accepted this.

    Every week I travel 10 kilometres down a crowded, four-lane, inner-city road. Whenever it contains bikes, the traffic is frequently forced to slow to a crawl as drivers wait for a chance to pass them. This increases the pollution given off by the cars, as well as raising tempers all round.

    Many bike riders hog the centre of their lane, legally and perhaps wisely, but also slip between traffic when it stops. Where there are traffic lights, this means you can find yourself grinding along behind the same bike several times in the space of a journey. So thousands of cars are inconvenienced by two or three bikes, and the amount of greenhouse gas produced increases.

    Bike riders tend to be unhappy and resentful people. They relish telling stories of narrow escapes from death at the hands of stupid car drivers. While glad the individuals involved survived, one has to wonder why they persist. We all know that significant proportions of the population are depressed, tense, on a vast range of attention-limiting prescription and non-prescription drugs, or like using their mobile phones while driving.

    For bike riders to launch into city traffic expecting everyone else to respond instantaneously to their unexpected appearance in the same lane, or when they flash through red lights at intersections, suggests a desire for self-harm. As does their preparedness to engage in sustained exercise where they breathe in large quantities of monoxide, with health consequences that can only be guessed at.

    Possibly their thinking has been adversely affected by the smog. Consider some of the proposals the lobby group Bicycle NSW made at the last state election. These included "affirmative action" such as forcing people to stop driving by introducing parking restrictions and imposing a general urban speed limit of 50kmh for all of Sydney. Considering the tiny number of cyclists who would benefit from such a change, you wonder if the bike lobby is suffering from delusions of grandeur.

    Given the threat bike riders pose to themselves and others, the big question is whether it is right to encourage them. Unfortunately, bike riding is one of those activities that has acquired an aura of virtue. Supporting it (with other people's money) is an easy way of demonstrating your moral stature. The new Westlink M7 has a 40-kilometre cycleway stretching from Prestons to Baulkham Hills. This was recommended in the tollway's environmental impact statement on the sole grounds (here quoting from the one-volume summary) that it "would improve cycling opportunities in the region".

    Now, almost no one rides bikes on roads in the western suburbs. According to a Westlink spokesman, there are not even any estimated usage figures for the new bike path. Very wise, that - but it makes you wonder just why building an unwanted 40-kilometre strip of concrete to be lit at night by coal-powered electricity should be considered environmentally beneficial.

    The Westlink spokesman refused to disclose how much the cycleway had added to the cost of the project - or to the toll that will be charged to road users.

    Fortunately the State Government is less enthusiastic about spending its money on bike infrastructure and has recently halved such expenditure. But more needs to be done. A public campaign encouraging people not to ride bikes in traffic would be a responsible start.
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    This guy is a prick. What the hell is his problem, ok I can kind of see why people may dislike people always commuting on bikes. But publically looking for a ban on riding bikes for commuting or at least getting the government to discourage it. Also it is not legal for us to ride on footpaths, they would need to change the law about that, then we would get even more bitching about us on the paths.

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    What a dick.
    Does he know how many riders get hit by cars and left with no help?
    Maybe he should get out of his car and ride to work
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    IT'S TIME to get bikes off our roads. As a mainstream form of transport, the bicycle has proved itself the equivalent of communism: a lovely idea that failed dismally in practice. Bikes are dangerous to ride and slow traffic, which creates more pollution. For the good of all of us, we need to ban the bike.

    If any banning of bikes goes on i will personally call godzilla.....


    That guy, and other bike haters truly are idiots...He was probably driving to his high class fancy shmancy job in his BMW this morning when a road rider came out in front of him and he got in a bit of a tizzle about it.

    Every week I travel 10 kilometres down a crowded, four-lane, inner-city road. Whenever it contains bikes, the traffic is frequently forced to slow to a crawl as drivers wait for a chance to pass them. This increases the pollution given off by the cars, as well as raising tempers all round.

    If he really needs to get passed he can press the magic button in the middle of the steering wheel.

    Many bike riders hog the centre of their lane, legally and perhaps wisely, but also slip between traffic when it stops. Where there are traffic lights, this means you can find yourself grinding along behind the same bike several times in the space of a journey. So thousands of cars are inconvenienced by two or three bikes, and the amount of greenhouse gas produced increases.

    Refer to above quote...and if they can slip through traffic, doesn't that benefit riding a bike?

    Bike riders tend to be unhappy and resentful people. They relish telling stories of narrow escapes from death at the hands of stupid car drivers. While glad the individuals involved survived, one has to wonder why they persist. We all know that significant proportions of the population are depressed, tense, on a vast range of attention-limiting prescription and non-prescription drugs, or like using their mobile phones while driving.

    I have met very very few unhappy riders, i mean, riding your bike all the time, in the fresh air enjoying life gives a person no reason to be grumpy, and if bike riders want to tell stories let them be...


    Argh, i can go on and on, this guy, and other members of the public are so blind to the benefits and fun of a bike, winging about them because it may give them a inconvienience in the morning is no reason to try and get them ban, Some people just take riders for stupid/crazy people, but driving a car has more risk in my opinion.

    I don't know about sydney, melborne, ect; But i know Brisbane has got special Bike lanes, so maybe if riders tried to stick to them as much as they can it will calm some people down....who knows, not riding a bike for your whole life does wacky things to you...

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    encouraging people not to ride bikes in traffic???????????
    WTF is this guy on, Sydney needs bikepaths like in Holland, so people can ride to work, which would solve alot of traffic issues at the same time.

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    Off yer bike - for the sake of all of us on the roads

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/o...422105845.html
    By Michael Duffy
    December 3, 2005

    Bikes are dangerous to ride and slow traffic, which creates more pollution. For the good of all of us, we need to ban the bike.

    the traffic is frequently forced to slow to a crawl as drivers wait for a chance to pass them. This increases the pollution given off by the cars, as well as raising tempers all round.

    Given the threat bike riders pose to themselves and others, the big question is whether it is right to encourage them. The new Westlink M7 has a 40-kilometre cycleway stretching from Prestons to Baulkham Hills. This was recommended in the tollway's environmental impact statement on the sole grounds (here quoting from the one-volume summary) that it "would improve cycling opportunities in the region".

    But more needs to be done. A public campaign encouraging people not to ride bikes in traffic would be a responsible start.
    Who does this guy think he is? I mean really sounds to me like he is just one of those many whinging motorists that has seen some cyclists do stupid things and now that is his view on all of us. Shame that people can be so narrow minded.
    What does he mean when he says riding bikes is dangerous? No more dangerous than alot of other things. eg. driving a car. Every time you get behind the wheel you are putting your life at risk, and also you are polluting the air. Just as he says, that is bad.
    Is the difference of a few cyclists really going to make positive changes to this greenhouse effect? NO. They would be much better protesting against other industries that give off shitloads of Greenhouse gases and leave cyclists alone.
    Being a roadie from western sydney, I think that the cycleway will be great. A nice place to ride when you want to get away from the traffic. Is an ideal training place for practicing road time trials without worrying about traffic lights, cars turning infront of you, getting abused, etc.
    I think that for some cyclists they do not fully obey all road rules as they know it will not change the attitudes of these motorists, so to make it a safer environment maybe they do need to do more to seperate bikes and cars. Put in many cycle-ways in and around Sydney. Put the extra meter on each side of the road for a decent bike lane, and for farks sake look out and respect cyclists!
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    So far according to the press, Urban riders are both terrorists and communists. Haha, what a CV!

    I'm shocked to find tabloidesque journalism like this in the Herald. I mean WTF is this:

    Bikes are dangerous to ride
    Any idea how many people die in car accidents every year Einstein?

    Today, fewer than 1 per cent of all trips in Sydney are made by bike.
    Care to share where you get this ionfo from or are we just supposed to take your word for Gospel?

    Bike riders tend to be unhappy and resentful people.
    Oh really? This comment made me cry and I resent that.......

    Now, almost no one rides bikes on roads in the western suburbs.
    Is that right? Done the research have you?

    That doesn't even resemble journalism, more a childish rant full of self serving assumptions. How does light fluffy crap like this make it into a quality newspaper?
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    If he was talking about a race he would be considered a racist pig.
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    man this guy is cruising for a bruising....

    i've never seen so much ignorance put into one piece of writing
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    FFS! This guy needs to get a girlfriend, then he will realise that you can't just do something because you feel like it or it's annoying you. What a selfish little bastard. This guy needs a visit from Mr. Board with nail. Ban Bikes? Get fucked.
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