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The Duckmeister

The Duckmeister

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Depends on what chain you're using. Multi-speed chains (3/32" link width) can't have the pins reused; they have a little ridge around each end which buggers the side plates if you try to push them back in. 1/8" single speed chains don't have the ridged pins, so these can be teused. You do need to spread the link slightly after joining, 'cos pushing the pin in does squeeze thd whole link together.
 
hach_bee

hach_bee

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pink poodle said:
there in lies your problem...i believe you can't 're-use' pins in this fashion. get yourself some of the sram/kmc/similar chain connectors and live a happy life.
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I might be wrong in the chain type you're using, but just in case... we used to re-use pins all the time. Would pop them out as described, re link the chain, then do the same in the opposite direction to the way you pushed it out. So by pushing it out both sides, you usually shave off a tiny bit of metal that causes the stiffness. Granted not ideal, but we never had problems with chains from it?
 
geoff_tewierik

geoff_tewierik

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FWIW it's an 8 Speed XTR 3/32" chain.

Will try the snap off link fix and if that's no good, will pop an extra chain connector in.

And if that's no good I have a 1/8" chain as well - heavy fucker.
 
pink poodle

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geoff_tewierik said:
FWIW it's an 8 Speed XTR 3/32" chain.

Will try the snap off link fix and if that's no good, will pop an extra chain connector in.

And if that's no good I have a 1/8" chain as well - heavy fucker.
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....and dont be fearing too many quick links. I have ran a few chains over the years with plenty of them in there. I have even used them and chain 'off cuts' to make new chains, sometimes from mismatched brands!

Only ever had 1 quickling issue. Was out at the death quarry and dropping a very fast looseish chute.....pins rattle loose as I approached the booter at the end. I didnt go as big as I would have liked and landing was funny. I did manage to find 1 of the sides in the ferns.
 
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JaRedy

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How come we dont get any pro downhillers from Japan, S/korea, china, india, etc? They have mountains and cars and economies and people and bikes...
 
pink poodle

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JaRedy said:
How come we dont get any pro downhillers from Japan, S/korea, china, india, etc? They have mountains and cars and economies and people and bikes...
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Japan - according to a bunch of stuff I have read in Japan about the subject mtb is relatively new there, although i have a pretty awesome Japanese mtb catalouge from about 10 years ago that is filled with awesome bikes. It is/was viewed as a sport for rich old men. There is a mtb skills school and tour guide in Hakuba that is ran by or employs a lady that was aparently a fairly high ranking rider in Canada. Japan would definately yield a lot of awesome riding terrain.

i do not know about the other places.
 
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Alex Dlugosch

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Regarding the chains, I wouldn't really find much worry in reusing a pin on an 8 speed chain that's being used on singlespeed. As long as your chainline is good, there shouldn't be any forces trying to push the outer side plate off the pin. Its a bit more risky if you're actually using it with gears, especially with a front derailleur.

8 speed chains have pretty minimal peening of the pins, less than 9-11 speed chains. Plus, when you push a pin like that it only removes one peened end, not both.

I'd be more concerned about the pitch of the new link being different (exactly 1/2" instead of the rest of the chain which is 1/2+a little") and causing problems, but only if the rest of the chain is pretty worn. If you're wanting to change cogs on your SS much at all, I'd just get a chain for one cog and another chain for the other cog. That'll make everything last longer too and easier for you when you wanna change back.


But a lot of chain tools, like many of those made by park, have a stiff link remover part on them which is just another tongue that you place the chain over, but this one is closer to the screw and doesn't have the chain touch the anvil. Thus putting the chain here and applying pressure to the pin will tend to spread the outer side plates apart as opposed to them getting pushed together like when pressing the pin back in.

Personally I'm just using 3 singlespeed NX-01 chains on rotation. Soon I should be able to make a new chain from all the spare links from previous chains. I don't change my cog ever.
 
The Duckmeister

The Duckmeister

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Alex Dlugosch said:
Regarding the chains, I wouldn't really find much worry in reusing a pin on an 8 speed chain that's being used on singlespeed. As long as your chainline is good, there shouldn't be any forces trying to push the outer side plate off the pin. Its a bit more risky if you're actually using it with gears, especially with a front derailleur.

8 speed chains have pretty minimal peening of the pins, less than 9-11 speed chains. Plus, when you push a pin like that it only removes one peened end, not both.
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It's not so much the removal of the peening on the pin that's the problem, it's the damage that's caused to the outer plate by bludgeoning the thing through that is. A warped link plate doesn't grip the pin as well as it should, and even on a single-speed where lateral flex is virtually non-existent is prone to popping off the end of the pin & blowing the link up.
 
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driftking

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pink poodle said:
Japan - according to a bunch of stuff I have read in Japan about the subject mtb is relatively new there, although i have a pretty awesome Japanese mtb catalouge from about 10 years ago that is filled with awesome bikes. It is/was viewed as a sport for rich old men. There is a mtb skills school and tour guide in Hakuba that is ran by or employs a lady that was aparently a fairly high ranking rider in Canada. Japan would definately yield a lot of awesome riding terrain.

i do not know about the other places.
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This is all assumption so could be 100% wrong.

Money and overall market would be a big issue in many places, really manufacturers need to make a profit and sell certain sale figures, without large sale figures the price goes up, many areas in those countries are not rich enough to spend that money on bikes or have the tracks and knowledge of downhill so logistically they would be sending bikes into a market that doesn't exist or is relativity unknown.. Japan and china are countries with drastically high work value, they are know for karoshi which is translated to death by overwork, their culture is very much work and get high grades to the extreme so time for riding a bike is probably something you only have when you are old rich and retired.

Equally I'm sure there are riders from those countries but you need to look at the competitive nature, whatever competition they have if any is not highly valued, the sponsors look at the bigger races like BDS, nationals, oceanias etc because there is more comparison to pros and there is more competition.
Equally the sheer numbers is a factor I would expect in aus, can,usa, uk etc all have huge rider numbers so you tend to have more high end riders which leads to more chance of having one be in a wc race.

At the end of the day I think the only chance of having a riding from those countries would be if they took a gamble and entered a wc round or moves to england or canada but its a lot of money to travel and enter if you don't qualify or don't finish in the top 20.
 
pink poodle

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driftking said:
....so time for riding a bike is probably something you only have when you are old rich and retired.
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a bit off topic, but an interesting observation I have made. Older Japanese people (let's go with over 60) appear to take up outdoor recreation in droves! It is really cool to see someone in their late 60s or 70s (and sometimes older) tearing up the snow and it is quite an interesting contrast compared to our approach to ageing. This year i spent a few days in the same pension as a group of 2 men and 2 women, all well into their 70s. They hadn't started skiing until they were in their 60s and were out at it all day. They had also hit up the Annapurna Circuit to celebrate one of their group members 70th birthday a few years ago.
 
Dozer

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JaRedy said:
How come we dont get any pro downhillers from Japan, S/korea, china, india, etc? They have mountains and cars and economies and people and bikes...
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Having seen a few porno's from these parts of the world I can only assume that the size of their appendage is a big factor. They have tiny dicks and no balls.................
 
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g-fish

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Dozer said:
Having seen a few porno's from these parts of the world I can only assume that the size of their appendage is a big factor. They have tiny dicks and no balls.................
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:llama::llama::llama::llama::llama::llama::llama:

If there ever was a time for llama it is now.
 
hach_bee

hach_bee

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If I have a projector and a laptop, both without inbuilt miracast compatibility, would the below work to make them compatible?

One of these for the receiving device (TV/projector)
http://miniandroidpc.com/shop/widi-wifi-display-link-dongle-dlan-hdmi-miracast

And one of these for a latop?
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/comp...v3000-push2tv-wireless-display-adapter/691466

And
Using this software…
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=19782


We have tabs already miracast/allshare cast compatible but want the option of (MS) laptops talking to the projector wirelessly as well...
 
fridgie

fridgie

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I don't think you're going about the laptop side the right way but could be wrong.

I have a kaiser baas smart tv android device as my media player. Basically makes your TV a giant android tablet and works pretty well. Has mirrorcast, airplay, dlna built in and with a file manager can connect wireless to network drives.

If the computer has wireless access I'd be looking at a software only solution.
 
WarbyD

WarbyD

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Aren't both of those items doing the same thing? Both appear to connect to the TV (or in your case, projector) to receive from a Miracast compatible device - Neither is suggesting they will broadcast.
 
geoff_tewierik

geoff_tewierik

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The Duckmeister said:
It's not so much the removal of the peening on the pin that's the problem, it's the damage that's caused to the outer plate by bludgeoning the thing through that is. A warped link plate doesn't grip the pin as well as it should, and even on a single-speed where lateral flex is virtually non-existent is prone to popping off the end of the pin & blowing the link up.
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Got it all sorted, removed the reused pin and popped in a new longer pin and then snapped off the extra bit - no more stiffness. Now to see whether I have any more longer pins in my tool bag for future gearing changes.
 
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