Help me decide what rim

yuley95

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
I need help deciding which rim to buy to build up a new back wheel.

I just picked up a Project 321 rear hub and will build a 26" wheel up for a 150mm all mountain (did someone say enduro?) bike that is my 'one bike to do it all'. Read that as, I don't want it to be too heavy but I still need it to hold up to Mt Buller, Kinglake and the Youies 6 - 10 times a year.

I'm about 75kg kitted up and while I like to hit features, I'm probably not as hardcore as I imagine I am and am reasonably easy on wheels.

I want something around 25mm internal width and under 500gm. I have been looking on the German sites and have narrowed it down to the following:
DT Swiss EX471
Stands Arch Mk3
SPank Oozy trail 295

They are all available for about 60 - 65 Euro.

Let me know your thoughts on those and feel free to toss in other options.
 
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shiny

Go-go-gadget-wrist-thingy
I am running the Spank rim, brilliant rim, good width, I felt it helped my bike to track better only downside is I have found it a bit of a pain to seal up tubeless but once sealed no issues. Similar weight to you and hit features, rock gardens, jumps drops etc and the rims have not budged since they were built.

Hit up Al at Pushies as he did a great price for me.

I had an old model Arch in the past and again a solid dependable rim and heard good things about the new version.
 
JTmofo

JTmofo

XC Enthusiast
I've been running Spank Oozy rims on my hardtail..... piece of piss to set up tubeless.... but made of edam/chedder (insert your cheese of choice here ).
395+ on a 140mm Hardtail being ridden with some gusto....
 
yuley95

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
moorey said:
Stans Fliw mk3. Fuck all heavier than arch, heaps wider.
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Tempting but I'm going to keep running my current front which is just 23mm internal. I know it's a bit weird but I don't really want to run something almost 30mm internal on the back with just 23 on the front. Can't afford do the front too...
 
yuley95

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
JTmofo said:
I've been running Spank Oozy rims on my hardtail..... piece of piss to set up tubeless.... but made of edam/chedder (insert your cheese of choice here ).
395+ on a 140mm Hardtail being ridden with some gusto....
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Ouch! Was that something other rims have shrugged off or a particularly messy landing?
 
yuley95

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
shiny said:
I am running the Spank rim, brilliant rim, good width, I felt it helped my bike to track better only downside is I have found it a bit of a pain to seal up tubeless but once sealed no issues. Similar weight to you and hit features, rock gardens, jumps drops etc and the rims have not budged since they were built.

Hit up Al at Pushies as he did a great price for me.

I had an old model Arch in the past and again a solid dependable rim and heard good things about the new version.
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Thanks Shiny!
 
JTmofo

JTmofo

XC Enthusiast
yuley95 said:
Ouch! Was that something other rims have shrugged off or a particularly messy landing?
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Yeah... can't imagine any rim would have survived the impact. I dropped off a 2.5ish ft drop at speed onto a little half buried tree stump.... little sneaky bastard stump.
Joking aside, Spank are really nicely shot peened finished, and have stayed true until this.

If I was looking for something narrower than my 395+, I'd be looking at Flow Mk3 or DTSWISS EX481.
 
moorey

moorey

call me Mia
yuley95 said:
20mm. i don't think I'll be able to afford it mate but cheers
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I have 20mm hope adapters I'll swap for the 15's. Ducks are lining up :woot:

Aside from that, don't skimp width, seeing you most likely WILL replace the narrow front.....we know you'll crumble...and are here to support you....
 
yuley95

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
moorey said:
I have 20mm hope adapters I'll swap for the 15's. Ducks are lining up :woot:

Aside from that, don't skimp width, seeing you most likely WILL replace the narrow front.....we know you'll crumble...and are here to support you....
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Goddam it! Sounds like it would be irresponsible NOT to get the flows...
 
moorey

moorey

call me Mia
yuley95 said:
Goddam it! Sounds like it would be irresponsible NOT to get the flows...
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You won't regret it. I have both flow and arch in mk3.....the arch were for a bike I pretend is XC.....really should have gone flow for the sake of about 150g overall for both wheels.
 
Flow-Rider

Flow-Rider

Burner
I'm running a set of 26" Flow Mk3 tubed on my DJ bike. They are quite a nice and durable rim but the only gripe I have with them ATM, is that they're a narrow sectioned rim and the valley in the rim is not deep enough to make an easy fitment of a tyres.
 
yuley95

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
Flow-Rider said:
I'm running a set of 26" Flow Mk3 tubed on my DJ bike. They are quite a nice and durable rim but the only gripe I have with them ATM, is that they're a narrow sectioned rim and the valley in the rim is not deep enough to make an easy fitment of a tyres.
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What brand tyres? I have found specialised to be really hard to get on, Conti sometimes hard and Maxxis the easiest on my current Mavic rims
 
Flow-Rider

Flow-Rider

Burner
yuley95 said:
What brand tyres? I have found specialised to be really hard to get on, Conti sometimes hard and Maxxis the easiest on my current Mavic rims
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The front was a Maxxis Ignitor and the rear was a Maxxis Crossmark and both tyres were used. Because of running tubes I did run a thicker layer of rim tape which didn't help any.

Most new tyres I install by hand on my other rims with a small fight, but with these I had to get the tyre levers out and then I still struggled. I think it would only be a real concern if you needed to fit a tube in race conditions other than that you would waste a bit of time on the side of the trails. The tyres weren't impossible to fit but very difficult compared to other rims I found.
 
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moorey

moorey

call me Mia
Noob mistakes. No issues whatsoever with maxxis tyres on mine (minions, HR's, SS's)...nor swobbles FWIW (NN, HD,RRazor)
 
Flow-Rider

Flow-Rider

Burner
moorey said:
Noob mistakes. No issues whatsoever with maxxis tyres on mine (minions, HR's, SS's)...nor swobbles FWIW (NN, HD,RRazor)
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It's obvious they got to be tight on the tyre being hookless and the rim wall height being so low. The profile of the rim doesn't allow for a deep valley. I've owned enough wheel sets to know what a tight one is.
 
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moorey

moorey

call me Mia
Flow-Rider said:
It's obviously they got to be tight on the tyre being hookless and the rim wall height being so low. The profile of the rim doesn't allow for a deep valley. I've owned enough wheel sets to know what a tight one is.
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It also mightn't make such a big wall to get they tire over, by the same logic.
Maybe not....but regardless, no issue fitting here.
 
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