pink poodle
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I was going to suggest we fly some farmers in and get them to run a well planned back burn @hifiandmtb, but it sounds like that is already under way. #solved
Fire Warnings
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This (other side of the river from where the photograph was taken) is where I am booked to camp for two weeks in about 10 days time.
Oddly that national park is currently closed...
Wow, those sort of pictures really make me stop and rethink my decision to stay and defend...
Plankosaurus
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Aye.
If a firetruck with big pumps and knowledgeable operators is in deep shit in a burn over, you and your house stands little chance. A LOT of people learned this the hard way at black Saturday. You can possibly protect from ember attack, but if you get a full bushfire roaring your way not being there is the only real option.
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If you have any number of trees within 50m of the house forget it. Grab what you can (important stuff) and get somewhere safe. I have been on the wrong end of cane fires, brush fires and full on bush fires. You cannot do anything worthwhile.
Haakon
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And also, having the radiant heat kill you and make your car explode before you’ve even seen the flames...
Professional firefighters run like buggery from the big fires, the professional part of that involves knowing that you can’t do anything with big fires. Do some pre prep work where they can, go in and mop up afterwards... No amount of back burning is relevant to the fires we have now.
Professional firefighters run like buggery from the big fires, the professional part of that involves knowing that you can’t do anything with big fires. Do some pre prep work where they can, go in and mop up afterwards... No amount of back burning is relevant to the fires we have now.
When we built our house we had to clear to 50m and then remove another 10m of under growth for the APZ. I questioned the 10m, and was told by the firey doing the assessment that canopy fires drop out after about 10m. Judging by the latest reports I'm pretty sure they don't believe this anymore. I also remember driving down the Hume after Black Saturday looking at all the solitary trees in the middle of paddocks that looked they had been nuked.
My house is sealed from ember attack, toughened glass windows, fire pump with heaps of water and hoses, clearing out to 60-70m and somewhere safe to bail to if shit gets out of hand, so I'm somewhat confident in staying. I'm not planning on fighting the fire, just the ember attack on the house.
My house is sealed from ember attack, toughened glass windows, fire pump with heaps of water and hoses, clearing out to 60-70m and somewhere safe to bail to if shit gets out of hand, so I'm somewhat confident in staying. I'm not planning on fighting the fire, just the ember attack on the house.
Plankosaurus
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"In some situations, the fires produced sufficient radiant heat to kill people 400 metres away"
I'm not saying you're not safe, but a firestorm is not something to take a punt with. As Haakon said, people are getting cooked before they even see flames
If you've got cleared land, and a bunker or house with a good water supply and an automated external fire protection, I'd be starting to feel more confident. But if you're thinking to walk around outside the house that might not work out for you. Not all fires are firestorms mind you, but I wouldn't be anywhere near the front of a firestorm.
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I'm not saying you're not safe, but a firestorm is not something to take a punt with. As Haakon said, people are getting cooked before they even see flames
If you've got cleared land, and a bunker or house with a good water supply and an automated external fire protection, I'd be starting to feel more confident. But if you're thinking to walk around outside the house that might not work out for you. Not all fires are firestorms mind you, but I wouldn't be anywhere near the front of a firestorm.
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Haakon
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I’d be wanting a bunker with at least a foot think concrete walls before I’d feel even remotely safe from radiant heat, and it needs to be airtight and/or a supply of oxygen after the fire sucks all the air out of the bunker...
Better is to have a bunker for all the important stuff you want to save and can’t carry out on short notice and just not be there on the bad days...
Better is to have a bunker for all the important stuff you want to save and can’t carry out on short notice and just not be there on the bad days...
We dont have any trees within 50m, just grass and the grove of trees is close to 90m away. I would be prepared to hang around and wet the ground and douse embers but should it somehow overwhelm the property my back up is diving into the 65kL in ground water tank.
I am surprised at the 10m comment. Many years ago I was almost caught out by a wild fire in eucalypt forest. The tree tops were on fire a long way ahead of the ground fire and it was routinely jumping a divided highway. Fucking scary doesnt come close.
I am surprised at the 10m comment. Many years ago I was almost caught out by a wild fire in eucalypt forest. The tree tops were on fire a long way ahead of the ground fire and it was routinely jumping a divided highway. Fucking scary doesnt come close.
You are not invited.
Haakon
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Don’t get surly, just a note of caution.
Plankosaurus
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pink poodle
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Open invites to @Dales Cannon hot tub party!
Haakon
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Do Homers have a more advanced nervous system than lobsters, or is it ok to boil them alive?
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pink poodle
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You have no idea what the set up is why comment?
Haakon
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Because many have died in above ground tanks, and thought it was worth pondering how an in ground one is better.