Project Car / Motorbike thread. Let's see 'em.

[Dales Cannon]

Singer doesn't have street cred?

Yeah right...

Their sewing machines have been cutting edge for years .

I would love one of the Eagle E type rebuilds or a D type with proper brakes.

 

[Oddjob]

Singer doesn't have street cred?

Yeah right...

I just said it wasn't worth $800,000 when you could get a Ruf CTR for less.



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[SummitFever]

That RUF video reminds me how hard those era Porsches were to drive, particularly as the HP outputs went up. Cars have come a long way.

 

[Tubbsy]

A classic Ruf CTR (the one in this video

) should set you back less than $600,000 dependant on condition.

There's a good reason why Ruf has the street cred. They have been way further down the rabbit hole for a lot longer than everyone else.

Not really a fair comparison, new vs used. The Singer is essentially a new car.

A Ruf SCR which is a similar concept to the Singer starts at 650,000 Euro.

 

[born-again-biker]

I just said it wasn't worth $800,000 when you could get a Ruf CTR for less.



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It's obviously not an entirely rational purchase - it's bought with heart strings, not head strings.
People might look at one of your boutique bikes & say why? For half the money I can get a mtn bike elsewhere that performs the same.
(don't get me wrong, I dig your bikes)

It's worth mentioning that Singer has "levels" of modification. We see all the high end ultra spendy ones on social media etc because that's what maintains the wow factor. There are lesser Singer cars being built for less moolah that are closer to the original 911 but still absolutely sensational.

 

[Flow-Rider]

No true car enthusiast would mangle an irreplaceable classic like that, some people might think it's Kool but in my opinion and many collectors it's not.

 

[born-again-biker]

No true car enthusiast would mangle an irreplaceable classic like that, some people might think it's Kool but in my opinion and many collectors it's not.

Did you say "mangle" ???

(....and they're just sporty Volkswagens anyway )

 

[hifiandmtb]

When I think Singer I think mangle. Should be their motto.

 

[Dales Cannon]

That RUF video reminds me how hard those era Porsches were to drive, particularly as the HP outputs went up. Cars have come a long way.

Not just that era. Inertia will have its way regardless of the technology and engineering trying to stop it. Ask me how I know.

 

[Boom King]

Not just that era. Inertia will have its way regardless of the technology and engineering trying to stop it. Ask me how I know.

How do you know?

 

[Boom King]

A classic Ruf CTR (the one in this video

) should set you back less than $600,000 dependant on condition.

There's a good reason why Ruf has the street cred. They have been way further down the rabbit hole for a lot longer than everyone else.



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RUF have never done it for me. They're fast, no doubt, but always struck me as a little agricultural handling wise.

In the end, if you are in the position to spend $600K on a car, $200K more ain't making a whole lot of difference. I'll never be in that position but would take a Singer over a RUF in a heartbeat.

One man's trash as the saying goes.....

 

[Dales Cannon]

How do you know?

Arnold sideways, nearly Arnold backwards in $800k of GT2! And that was without lifting off because I knew what that would cause.

I have seen a Singer close up (UK). The workmanship is stunning.

 

[Oddjob]

RUF have never done it for me. They're fast, no doubt, but always struck me as a little agricultural handling wise.

In the end, if you are in the position to spend $600K on a car, $200K more ain't making a whole lot of difference. I'll never be in that position but would take a Singer over a RUF in a heartbeat.

One man's trash as the saying goes.....

I've never seen a Singer but sat in a Ruf BTR 2 and that thing was like a starship from another galaxy.

It was probably the quickest car in Taiwan at the time, although the same nutjob who owned it had a full house Tommy Kaira R33 GTR, so maybe not.

$200k is a Panamera, Macan or a lot of track days so its not an insignificant amount.





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[Tubbsy]

The people in the market for these cars can afford to have both.

 

[Haakon]

Singer stuff is cool. If I had endless cash I’d have one for sure. They’re not restorations or replicas - they’re tributes.

 

[hifiandmtb]

The trickle is becoming a flood, thanks to Euro emissions legislation:

Bang bang will soon be no more.

 

[hifiandmtb]

$200k is a Panamera, Macan or a lot of track days so its not an insignificant amount.

Those who want a Ruf will buy a Ruf. Those who want a Singer will buy a Singer.

I doubt there is a single cross shopper out there who would rationalise their purchase based on price

 

[Flow-Rider]

This thread is becoming like the movie "gone in 60 seconds " full of shit because I've worked for excotic and muscle car workshops, they're usually the tightest pricks I've ever seen with money.

 

[Boom King]

$200k is a Panamera, Macan or a lot of track days so its not an insignificant amount.

I've loved Porsche since I was a very young boy but I have zero love for either the Panamera or the Macan.

Indeed, $200K is a significant amount. My point was that $600K and $800K are essentially the same market segment.

 

[hifiandmtb]

Oh yeah!

Interesting take on having someone watching what happens at the bucket in a bang-bang machine...this one is so quiet the operator can hear what they are touching.