Black Dogs and mental shit in general

Plankosaurus

Spongeplank Dalepantski
I watched that ADHD video and a lot of that resonates with me, particularly the emotional dysregulation.
Think I’m going to speak to my doc
Something that seems to be a common theme in some of the videos I've listened to, is being treated for something else (depression, anxiety etc.) But missing the ADHD which is very possibly a root cause.

Definitely worth pursuing

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Scotty T

Walks the walk
I talked to a counsellor recently, a first for me. My wife had gotten into a pretty bad place with lack of action over her work situation, and I was struggling to support her and getting angry. She had already started having some counselling sessions, and suggested I needed to do that to support her.

I got some strategies on how to listen and be supportive, and got value from talking to someone outside of my social groups who had professional advice.

Mrs is finally starting to see some understanding from the colleagues involved, of the impact the situation at work has had on her, after following through a lot of channels and having some of them go nowhere. She's had a shit 5 months and just wants to go in and do the work she loves without a feeling of dread over what might come next from the pathetic management of the situation.
 

Haakon

Keeps on digging
I talked to a counsellor recently, a first for me. My wife had gotten into a pretty bad place with lack of action over her work situation, and I was struggling to support her and getting angry. She had already started having some counselling sessions, and suggested I needed to do that to support her.

I got some strategies on how to listen and be supportive, and got value from talking to someone outside of my social groups who had professional advice.

Mrs is finally starting to see some understanding from the colleagues involved, of the impact the situation at work has had on her, after following through a lot of channels and having some of them go nowhere. She's had a shit 5 months and just wants to go in and do the work she loves without a feeling of dread over what might come next from the pathetic management of the situation.
I'd love to be one of those people who happily leave work at work and never lets it bother them personally - sounds like a super skill to have!!
 

Winno

Likes Dirt
I'd love to be one of those people who happily leave work at work and never lets it bother them personally - sounds like a super skill to have!!
Finding a role which helps in this regard was a biggie for me. Sure it means I’m not as high up the ladder as I could have been but my evening and weekends and time with my significant other are so much better off for it. That’s a win surely.


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link1896

Mr Greenfield
This is probably the first time i've paid any attention to this thread, as a rule i find mental health confusing and difficult to relate to.

Recently tho, my wifey has gently nudged me along the path to get looked at for ADHD (i know, doesn't really fit the same stuff as usually discussed here. i think). a friend of hers got diagnosed and it piqued my interest a little, then when i said i think i should look into it, wifey swiftly kicked me up the ass and told me to get out there and do it (so possibly not the gentlest of nudges).

Just got back from my 3rd appointment up the chain, and they had absolutely zero doubt - i'm ADHD as fark, zero grey area.

I really had no proper idea about the condition previously, yeah i struggle to concentrate and vague out all the time, but always had it in my head that ADHD meant you were constantly bouncing off the walls which isn't always the case with me. tentatively went and saw the docs to discuss it (hardest part was that first step), they pointed me at a mental health practitioner who told me to see a psych and to look into the condition more, and the floodgates were opened.

The best thing is working out that i can cut myself a little slack, and that there's a very good reason behind a lot of the things i've struggled with as far back as i can remember. I've learnt a crazy amount about myself in the last few weeks of information and reflection. an overwhelming amount even that is super difficult to properly articulate and any attempt usually results in frustration as about 50 things try to get out all at once. started with a few "what is ADHD" videos, and started realizing i was ticking all the boxes, like ALL of them. then moved on to specific aspects, and strategies to combat the issues and just sat there nodding my head and laughing at all the stuff that i'm finding out a lot of other people are struggling with too.

There's a load thats been lifted today after the psych appointment. I can look forward to treatment, that i hear is spectacularly effective. and be more mindful of things, which i'm already finding effective. and just ease up on the self criticism, which is an amazing feeling.


There's probably a few burners out there with this, possibly in this thread (but you know, reading and finding it? nah)
I've found the "how to ADHD" series of videos super helpful. usually put them on in the car and listen to them while i'm driving (because sitting and watching them properly? nah)


Thanks boys and girls, good to get it out :D
The meds are very helpful. You’ve run a good part of your life without any meaningful dopamine levels, life on the other side is a lot easier. The drugs are helping with the symptom, but not the cause. For me it was years of gut dissfunction that led to onset of adhd. For people who have ended up with adhd from gut disfunction, this is some chance of healing and weaning off the drugs.

The below is relevant for adults, none of this applies to children.

Ritalin is terrible. It’s short acting and a roller coaster of shit.

Concerta is better then Ritalin, but dumped me on my ass daily hard when it wore off.

Vyvance is the drug of choice for me. Long acting. Getting the dose right is the key. You can split it, open the capsule and take half in morning, half at lunch.

Finding a psychiatrist that specialises in ADHD is key. Mine has ADHD himself, but like so many, has closed his books. Only a psychiatrist can prescribe or direct the GP to prescribe, psychologist cannot prescribe but will be helpful with coaching and coping methods.

Best if your GP’s referral is an ongoing referral and not a 1 off consult, a one off consult then has the GP managing and prescribing the schedule 8 drugs after the GP get the letter back from psychiatrist , and that’s not as good as the psychiatrist prescribing directly.
 

fjohn860

Alice in diaperland
I'd love to be one of those people who happily leave work at work and never lets it bother them personally - sounds like a super skill to have!!
I think this is definitely my super skill, although type of work can definitely/probably play a factor.

If I'm driving home thinking about work (or at home thinking about work). I consciously stop myself mid work-thought and then say out loud "fuck it, not worth worrying about" or "fuck it, what is, will be".

And then I don't think about it anymore. At least until either I'm driving to work or have just arrived there.
 

Flow-Rider

Burner
Everybody has their own thing but I was listening to a podcast that was made in the US and I couldn't agree more with them about the culture of office jobs related to corporate companies, everything they said rang true to me personally and it is a toxic culture. People trying to climb on top of people for salary increases, an endless cycle of workers that are retrenched and or shuffled around every 3 to 5 years when management changes, and the more money you make, the more you spend on the upkeep of the stuff you don't really need. What's even more amusing is that all 3 podcast hosts have degrees but the 3 of them opted out to do just low stress mundane jobs.

I think this is definitely my super skill, although type of work can definitely/probably play a factor.

If I'm driving home thinking about work (or at home thinking about work). I consciously stop myself mid work-thought and then say out loud "fuck it, not worth worrying about" or "fuck it, what is, will be".

And then I don't think about it anymore. At least until either I'm driving to work or have just arrived there.
When I was an apprentice I used to drive people to work after they had dropped their cars off, doctors, court supreme judges, builders, and laborers, I'd seen it all, the long heavy breathing as I got closer to their work, the stress in people's voices, it's something you never forget.

Everyone lives their own life but one thing I never did was get into so much debt that I couldn't leave my job, the world is going through changes at the moment, and as long as I have my health that's starting to twindle with age it doesn't really matter to me anymore where I am on the ladder. It's like that video I posted up, your job not care about you.
 
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ForkinGreat

Knows his Brassica oleracea
Everybody has their own thing but I was listening to a podcast that was made in the US and I couldn't agree more with them about the culture of office jobs related to corporate companies, everything they said rang true to me personally and it is a toxic culture. People trying to climb on top of people for salary increases, an endless cycle of workers that are retrenched and or shuffled around every 3 to 5 years when management changes, and the more money you make, the more you spend on the upkeep of the stuff you don't really need. What's even more amusing is that all 3 podcast hosts have degrees but the 3 of them opted out to do just low stress mundane jobs.


When I was an apprentice I used to drive people to work after they had dropped their cars off, doctors, court supreme judges, builders, and laborers, I'd seen it all, the long heavy breathing as I got closer to their work, the stress in people's voices, it's something you never forget.

Everyone lives their own life but one thing I never did was get into so much debt that I couldn't leave my job, the world is going through changes at the moment, and as long as I have my health that's starting to twindle with age it doesn't really matter to me anymore where I am on the ladder. It's like that video I posted up, your job not care about you.
Self-Help Singh is an OG Guru :D more people should heed his wisdom
Many employers will bullshit about the workplace being a team and a family and Demanding your loyalty and obedience, yet if you get really ill or die, you will be replaced quickly, if you leave that job, no-one will give a shit. Don't give everything to a job, because you won't get that in return.

 

The Duckmeister

Has a juicy midrange
I'd love to be one of those people who happily leave work at work and never lets it bother them personally - sounds like a super skill to have!!
I think it depends on what one's line of work is. I've always worked in practical fields that are very much on-site, so there's basically zero possibility for work to bleed into personal time. When I was in the bike game, sometimes there'd be an oddball noise or something where the diagnostic thought process would follow me home and try to bug me, but without having the offending bike with me to keep picking at, it wasn't too hard to say to myself, "fuck it, leave it for tomorrow".

More often I've had the opposite problem.... Personal shit chewing at my brain has distracted me from working properly at times, while perversely at other times work has pulled my brain away from stewing on the personal shit. Some consistency would be nice!
 
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Haakon

Keeps on digging
I think it depends on what one's line of work is. I've always worked in practical fields that are very much on-site, so there's basically zero possibility for work to bleed into personal time. When I was in the bike game, sometimes there'd be an oddball noise or something where the diagnostic thought process would follow me home and try to bug me, but without having the offending bike with me to keep picking at, it wasn't too hard to say to myself, "fuck it, leave it for tomorrow".
This is true… For whatever reason I went down the road of doing something I thought was vaguely useful (or something…) for the planet and hence ended up wrapping a bit of self identity up in the work. Not super healthy, but I’m getting over it.
 

link1896

Mr Greenfield
I think it depends on what one's line of work is. I've always worked in practical fields that are very much on-site, so there's basically zero possibility for work to bleed into personal time. When I was in the bike game, sometimes there'd be an oddball noise or something where the diagnostic thought process would follow me home and try to bug me, but without having the offending bike with me to keep picking at, it wasn't too hard to say to myself, "fuck it, leave it for tomorrow".

More often I've had the opposite problem.... Personal shit chewing at my brain has distracted me from working properly at times, while perversely at other times work has pulled my brain away from stewing on the personal shit. Some consistency would be nice!
I was in a hell hole of corporate culture that demanded 7 day a week, 7am till 10pm availability, 50 hours at the desk was considered normal, then calls up till 10pm, weekends not mine and I was the answer to any shortcomings or capacity constraints. Big part of what fucked my health.

It would be a Friday night, I’m cooking for the family, so 5 unique meals on the go, and I’d have a staff member who couldn’t think for themselves wanting help, or a customer crying crocodile tears. Then Monday I’d face the grilling, “why did you do this, why did you do that?” from someone second guessing Fridays incident.

Then along comes lockdowns, stood down without pay, then verbally abused for not reading emails or answering calls.

So 21 years experience walked out the door. My staff all refused to even talk about taking some of my role once I departed claiming it was too hard.

The short sightedness of publicly listed companies is mind boggling. Fuck em.
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
Thats shit ! I would hate to think about work when I got home. Faakk... most days its wiped itself from my head as I'm still walking out of the place.

Next night I'll be driving down towards work, looking at it and still not even thinking about it :)

I've been a shift worker for over 30yrs and probably the reason why I love nightshift so much is because the fuckwits are all in bed while I'm at work.
 

Scotty T

Walks the walk
I'd love to be one of those people who happily leave work at work and never lets it bother them personally - sounds like a super skill to have!!
Yeah this was probably part of the issue between myself and Mrs, I'm pretty good at not giving a fuck, and I have a really great team and management, which makes any job, even ones where you are under the pump (I'm generally not), much more bearable. Mrs loves her job, but the shitty line management she works under makes her hate being at work at times.

I was in a hell hole of corporate culture that demanded 7 day a week, 7am till 10pm availability, 50 hours at the desk was considered normal, then calls up till 10pm, weekends not mine and I was the answer to any shortcomings or capacity constraints.

The short sightedness of publicly listed companies is mind boggling. Fuck em.
Yep, this is absolute bullshit. Were you in charge of a fucking hospital? Would people die if you only worked a 40 hour week? I'm guessing you were getting 9% super too.

I've been a shift worker for over 30yrs and probably the reason why I love nightshift so much is because the fuckwits are all in bed while I'm at work.
How union-ised is your workplace/industry? Those with more union membership always have better conditions and less bending of the rules in relation to extra unpaid hours and so on. I feel like the demise of unions is a big contributor to this culture.
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
How union-ised is your workplace/industry? Those with more union membership always have better conditions and less bending of the rules in relation to extra unpaid hours and so on. I feel like the demise of unions is a big contributor to this culture.
Very unionised.

Though we are losing a lot of it every EB.

The culture still remains, if I am there for any time over my regular hours and handover time, it's double bubble.
 

link1896

Mr Greenfield
Yeah this was probably part of the issue between myself and Mrs, I'm pretty good at not giving a fuck, and I have a really great team and management, which makes any job, even ones where you are under the pump (I'm generally not), much more bearable. Mrs loves her job, but the shitty line management she works under makes her hate being at work at times.



Yep, this is absolute bullshit. Were you in charge of a fucking hospital? Would people die if you only worked a 40 hour week? I'm guessing you were getting 9% super too.



How union-ised is your workplace/industry? Those with more union membership always have better conditions and less bending of the rules in relation to extra unpaid hours and so on. I feel like the demise of unions is a big contributor to this culture.
I was responsible for the technology in about 1/3rd of Australia’s cinemas. I often said “hold on a god damn moment, no one is going to die because of this”.

My neighbour fixed mri machines, his response time to Hobart hospital was less demanding then ours to the Hobart cinemas.
 

Ultra Lord

Hurts. Requires Money. And is nerdy.
I was responsible for the technology in about 1/3rd of Australia’s cinemas. I often said “hold on a god damn moment, no one is going to die because of this”.

My neighbour fixed mri machines, his response time to Hobart hospital was less demanding then ours to the Hobart cinemas.
Can confirm, hospitals don’t give a flying fuck about maintenance.
 

Squidfayce

Eats Squid
The short sightedness of publicly listed companies is mind boggling. Fuck em.
Not all of them. Where I am. Complete opposite. Everyone including my boss walk out the door when 5pm hits. The only weekend contact I've had from my boss was to show off some awesome diablo legendary that dropped lol
 
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