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I bet he comes back and claims it to be legit now just to push the envelope further! hahah!
What say you Theo??
What say you Theo??
Yeah, showed dad my post and everyones reactions, he giggled a little.I challenge you to show your parents that last post and tell us what they think of it.
quiet simply actually world trail would have spoken with the ranger and said it not ready to ride, its onlyEveryone owns this track(or everyone who pays tax ) so I cannot see how a trail builder can close it they don't own it!
Thanks for thinking of me fellas. Yippee... I think you see where I was heading with this. You came through with a pretty sweet picture though so you have me covered. I probably am getting bitter in my old age but I'm just frustrated. It is just that I have heard it all before. I lived in Canada for 5 years in the freestyle ski scene and we faced similar issues with our jump building, the terrain park and the spoilt people that paint a bad image of the scene. I thankfully wasn't one of them... I was lucky enough to have my gear covered though after busting my balls and proving my worth as a coach.I know it's probably going to be hard due to money constraints etc, but why don't we learn from trail builders in some of the wettest climates in the world, and take up a couple of truck loads of rocks and layer it in the trouble spots. Kind of making a surface like this new park in Northern Wales. Surely we all would like a track that can be ridden all year and that can stand up to traffic.
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In saying that, we all must understand that the closure is a product of the soft surface coupled with the rain. Maybe next winter, closures wont happen as frequent. But the above trail sure shows us how the pro's do it, with forethought.
PS. I also ran into a bloke last week who overtly admitted to driving down to Kinglake and riding even though he knew it was closed. With inconsiderate people like that around, something needs to be done to make the surface of the track sustainable long term, otherwise clowns like that will ruin it for the rest of us who are waiting and respecting the closure/s. The reality is, there are people who do the wrong thing, whether we like it or not, and we and the builders/maintainers etc have to evolve and minimize the harm for the majority.
I agree with Dog too. Waan5 you need a hug or something.
Spot on and correct. This trail has achieved so many firsts for DH riding and moving it forward as a legitimate discipline and recreation with designated areas in the eyes of our land holders and gov't depts there are no negatives, only good will come from this facility for future trail projects.Yeah building in winter wasn't ideal nor are some section of the track, it will evolve in time! But i think people are missing a vital point. This is the first 'legal' track built in a Vic National Park. nods back to the start of this thread - It has taken alot of behind the scenes work (5+ years) to even get the sign off to get this track built. In order to get approval the design had to be built by 'a registered organisation' for liability reasons, in order to appease skeptics within PV, local council, SP AusNet and other relevant parties. It was never going to be a gnarly goat trail full of meat truck jumps/drops etc built by local dewdz. But having said that neither was the old track.
End of the day this track is different to any other as Parks Vic is a Government organisation- Public Liability had to be considered (iRide at apollo bay has built his trails with a similar thought process). Whilst most Authorities are focusing on shutting down trails, refer to the current outlooks saga, Parks are building!. Hence why all jumps are roll-able! Parks Vic, WT planning & design had to take morons into account: "i wanted to ride a xc trail and didnt see the double black sign, i crashed, now my rocky mountain is broken, i bruised my toe and have hurt feelings...i want a BMW!"
This trail id effectively a track that PV will be able to use as an example of what can be achieved and other parks will sight it to get approval elsewhere in the state. So if we want to see more DH/freeride tracks in National Parks, just respect that the trail is not right to go yet, think of it as still under construction if that makes it easier to understand. Support other clubs and ride the alpine gravity, avid winter series or other ride days that are up for grabs til summer.
You been shredded, join the club.Are you serious? Or am I missing the sarcasm in your post? Do you seriously think that of your parents? Do you seriously think taking out the rubbish and feeding the dog earns you a carbon v10 and tld kit? Mate when I was a kid I had to chop wood and go hay bailing to save up to buy my first skateboard. That taught me to appreciate what I have and earn it, and respect in some small way the work my parents did and sacrifices they made to support a family. I think you might wanna start trying to do the same. As for your comments on riding trails in the rain, well... again, you obviously lack respect. for the people who built the track, and for everyone else prepared to do their bit and make the odd sacrifice for the benefit of everyone. Lets be honest, we all ride wet trails here and there, but I'm sure most don't go out with that sort of stuff everyone else attitude. I think you should pull your head in until such time as you do some jobs that actually require some work, and understand things a bit better.
Atleast you have the fact that you're only 13 to fall back on though, there are others that are much older and should know much better but seemingly don't.
I challenge you to show your parents that last post and tell us what they think of it.
Yep, shredded hard. I'll get the li'l tyke yet!! :redface:You been shredded, join the club.
Cheers Wisey! Can't say I didn't try. Also love the Kinglake (Northern) MTB club idea. Much more chance of people joining I think as it's 'local'. HHmmmmmmmm....At this stage WT are still managing the process of making sure they deliver what has been paid for and promissed so no other trail work will take place, rightly or wrongly. An important part of this is the agreement that YYMTB will formally adapt an MOI to manage the area going forward whos responsibilty will be trail maintenace, this will take place in the hand over as well as the IMBA final approval.
Kinglake PV are under staffed and under the pump all the time since the fires and consequently have had extra staff come in to help complete these projects. We have had 3 different rangers, 2 from YY and one from NE Vic manage this project at different times over the last two years, Mark and Mark from the You Yangs have been an integral part of seeing this project through and having great input to get us here. Mark U has gone on an exchange to Canada to do some more good work, he left before the trail opened and Mark W has been running this project since the other left. They both should be commended for their tireless work, they both post here as You Yangs Ranger. So no, that is not true.
Everyone owns this track(or everyone who pays tax ) so I cannot see how a trail builder can close it they don't own it! So go ride the so called illegal trails in the yarra valley that no one knows about while the king lake bmx goes hard and gets groomed just like a dh track should[
I second this. Fuckin idiots!Why not tell me your name so when i spot you when im busting my balls building on"the illegal trails"in the yarra valley i can remove your helmet and punch you in the face.You have no respect and therefore deserve to be treated with none
When it's dry and hard.i know on the website it says closed till after winter but i was just wondering how long after winter will it reopen.
because the first day of september is a saturday and i am super keen to get out and ride the track as soon as its open.
Thanks.