I don't imagine that general military training involves much on the way of customer service or law 101. I also don't imagine that the PSO training involves much of the kill-bot factory aspect that manufacturing soldiers does.No I wouldn't - I'd trust a soldier over a PSO but I'm biased because I was one. I don't really want either in position where they have power and authority that hasn't been fully considered.
I feel like this about police. I love the way that gun looks while they sit around drinking coffee...clunking against the cafe chair.I’d rather they didn’t carry guns.
Yep. All PSO's are armed. Maybe not some that have duties directly in court rooms, but generally yes they all carry.I feel like this about police. I love the way that gun looks while they sit around drinking coffee...clunking against the cafe chair.
There should be no need for the PSO teams to be armed. Is that an everyday practice in Vic?
Wow. That seems unnecessary.Yep. All PSO's are armed. Maybe not some that have duties directly in court rooms, but generally yes they all carry.
Exactly on the military stuff. Their job isn't policing and they aren't set up for it.I don't imagine that general military training involves much on the way of customer service or law 101. I also don't imagine that the PSO training involves much of the kill-bot factory aspect that manufacturing soldiers does.
In NSW the transit officers (folks ta check train/bus/ferry tickets) have gone through an interesting journey. I first remember them appearing around 15 years ago after an overhaul of ticket compliance methods. They had a blad brown/khaki uniform and authority quite similar to the police in their particular environment. Many of the members were aggressive and heavy handed towards travellers, and a lot of violent confrontations were reported. Eventually they were canned and redesigned over a few years. The new version were polite and much more effective.
Usually when the military are deployed on their own population they are either saving them from a natural disaster (like fire or flood) or herding them into football stadiums.
Yeah but you still have to listen to dissenting views even if you don’t like the source..UnHerd. Lol, not gonna waste the badwidth: https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...the-whining-of-the-perfectly-well-represented
Yeah it’s super creepy. Makes train stations feel a whole lot less safe...Wow. That seems unnecessary.
In NSW it seems they put the dud police in the transit units.Perhaps the PSOs should be put in Highway Patrol capacity so they can strut around pretending they’re making a difference And the HP police can do some real police work.
Who doesn't like poorly monitored authority?Exactly on the military stuff. Their job isn't policing and they aren't set up for it.
Both the PSOs and wider VicPol are always keen to get their hands on the training that goes in to manufacturing soldiers so the lines between soldier and constable continue to blur
To a large extent the early NSW transit mob you've described sounds similar to PSOs in Vic. IBAC put out a report back in 16/17 about the issues within it, then (as far as I know) they just started grouping complaints/incidents involving PSOs in with other Police incidents so they couldn't be tracked separately.
IMO they shouldn't carry firearms and their limits and powers should be very clear
Yeah, but the militarisation of police is working out great in the US - why wouldn’t we also want more military in our policing?Exactly on the military stuff. Their job isn't policing and they aren't set up for it.
Both the PSOs and wider VicPol are always keen to get their hands on the training that goes in to manufacturing soldiers so the lines between soldier and constable continue to blur
To a large extent the early NSW transit mob you've described sounds similar to PSOs in Vic. IBAC put out a report back in 16/17 about the issues within it, then (as far as I know) they just started grouping complaints/incidents involving PSOs in with other Police incidents so they couldn't be tracked separately.
IMO they shouldn't carry firearms and their limits and powers should be very clear
The Minions hide a lot of their BS in Qld, if they are deemed not fit to serve the public they hide them in offices because they know they will dob in other minions if they get thrown out of a job.In NSW it seems they put the dud police in the transit units.
Who doesn't like poorly monitored authority?
Gotta get woke...