Yeah, the only thing that's stopping me from shutting it down is the faint hope that it's contributing to an outcome where both camps eventually work out how to best co-exist.
And also that I couldn't be fucked dealing with the inevitable accusations of censorship, etc etc
I understand that for sure... and as much as this thread winds me up, I think it’s not a bad thing to polarise the good from the bad… to remind us what we are up against.
Let’s face it, our degree qualified member is a troll, as he is only interested in head butting... there can be no two way meaningful dialogue with him. It seems like he is more interested in upping his status with his e-group by being the he-man here.
But in the end this is a mountain bike forum, for mountain bike riders who actually pedal, where nobody uses a motor, it's just pedal power in its purest... so it's a pretty significant thing whether we mountain bike riders have to even consider co-existing on the same mountain bike trails, with the e-knobs.
If it was only low powered low mass e-pedelec bikes for the infirm or impaired with not a massive performance differentiation between them and real mountain bikes, then it may be possible.
But the die-hard e-brigade are not about low powered… they are about more and more and more. They are degree qualified engineers who want to develop more of this and develop more of that. What they really want is a silent trail bike... but don’t want to ride it on trail bike trails… where they would be hopelessly outclassed by actual trail bikes with actual power… they would rather ride on mountain bike trails, where they can skedaddle sheepishly off into the distance, whenever someone who is pedalling realises what just passed them.
For instance… I’ve seen bikes like this at Lysty many times now… they are not there to do the shuttle thing, that is bullshit, they are just simply thrashing around mountain bike tracks because they can get away with it.
Awesome morning for it. Now home to get the Fury 2.0 for some gravity.
I mean is this thing 200watts or 250watts?… I reread the retort a few times and couldn’t make out what was he was on about… but, I doubt it is so low powered. OK, benefit of the doubt, if it is only 200/250watts, it must be slow as hell as it’s gotta weight a friggin’ ton. The e-motor in the rear wheel screams massive unsprung weight… let alone the batteries in the frame spar. So, 250watts to power that thing? Yeah right.
If they rode on trail bike trails or on their own e-trails, it would be fine… we could co-exist as we would be in parallel universes… but that is clearly not happening, as I’ve seen them with my own eyes on mountain bike only trails … and they are not hanging about, they are gunning it.
Alas, they are a cancer…