Election 2010: Who will you be voting for? and why? (Constructive forum responses)

2010: Who will you vote for?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 34 40.5%
  • Labor

    Votes: 19 22.6%
  • Nationals

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Democrats

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Greens

    Votes: 13 15.5%
  • Independent (as in non-aligned individual)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Invalid (blank form or scribbled pesonal comment - ie waste of time voter)

    Votes: 8 9.5%
  • Warnie

    Votes: 9 10.7%

  • Total voters
    84

Rider_of_Fast

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The 2010 election is looming upon us... so who the bloody hell are ya gonna vote for?

So, I thought it would be interesting to gauge a bit of a vote on farkin, using their high tech bar charting system to capture the output data (excuse the power data freak within) from your votes to get a sample of who could potentially be our next PM. Please make your vote and feel free to provide an explanation too. What I don't want to see is people abusing one another and making personal attacks, thats not what its about... Its about beating up our leaders/opposition etc etc, nit picking at them, the good the bad and then making a vote and explaining why...Please, no posts like "I'm too young" or "Politics is for dickheads". Nobody cares (and in fact don't even bother opening this thread - cos you're most likely a dead beat, ie. obviously not if you're too young).

So here I go...

Personally, being only a 2nd time voter (a coming of age thing) and after hearing the response of Tony Abbotts 'Right of Reply' on tonights ABC broadcast, I am definately leaning towards an Abbott led Coalition government.

I think anyone who can't see past all the incumbent government's failures is really just a diehard labour voter and following a 'labour born and bred' belief. I beleive that Kevin Rudd's typical demagoguery will be revealed as a scam and he is merely a hoax to all Australians, particularly to the ones who voted him in (I am ashamed to be one of them).

FAILURES:
You have no doubt heard of these, however let me list a few of his failures:
- Fuel & grocery watch (what ever happened to that?)
- Home insulation scheme (resulting in the tragic loss of 4 lives - bastard dickhead Garrett should get the sack)
- GP super 'phantom' clinics unrealistic expectations (apparently one in Darwin has to source doctors from sydney to do weekend shifts at a rate of $7,000)
- Education 'revolution'/schooling infrastructure program (no need to explain - even the mainstream sunrise/today programs covered this without too much bias).
- Aboriginal housing scheme (built less than a handful of houses).
- ... etc... now I'm undoubtedly missing more here but have experience a bout of writers block, but you get the drift.

Please, feel free to add to my list of failures above... alternatively, by some sheer stroke of luck or ingenious mental strain, you may like to create a 'Successes' list (however, this is highly unlikely). By the way, saying sorry to the Aborigines doesn't count, just look how far this has taken us in reducing the gap (hint: not very).

Now I am no political know-it-all, I am actually only in my early 20's. But having grown up with the success' of the Howard government after the failues of the Keating government, I am seeing a disturbing trend emerge.

Now its your turn, to take the vote...
 

scblack

Leucocholic
We already have a thread on this. Been going for years now.

At least you have kept your eyes open, and took the time to listen to Abbott's reply. Good work. keep your mind open.
 

pocket_cup

Likes Dirt
why? A) my family has been strong labor voters for nearly 100 years, and although im not pressured into voting for labour, i feel they are they have the best chance in keeping liberal out of power. B) K-rudd has swagger.

P.S ill be a first time voter (provided i turn 18 before the election is held) so i know as little about politricks as anyone. i know more than most people my age do about politricks, (because my family is highly politically based, eg my grandpa is the longest serving labor memer in australia, 81 years!) but my knowledge on this topic is small enough to fit into a tea cup.
 
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'Ross

Eats Squid
At least you have kept your eyes open, and took the time to listen to Abbott's reply. Good work. keep your mind open.
Don't know if you intended it like this, but that actually sounds like a pretty close minded opinion haha:p

I'll be sticking with the good old invalid vote, the way I see it is none of them are really good enough for my vote, and if I did go with one side I know when they win they will just break most of their promises and rip me off. When people complain to me about Kevin Rudd, or used to complain about Howard, my response was usually 'you voted for him, you deal with it':p

But being totally honest, I would 'prefer' a liberal government, always seems more stable and predictable, Labor tends to announce new things every week that never eventuate. I'm glad the public is turning on Rudd, I've saw straight through him from the start.......although Abbott to me doesn't really seem like PM material.

At this early stage I would tip Labor to win the election again, Liberals haven't done enough to show why they should be in government, so far they have only highlighted Labor's flaws.
 

gregb

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Ruddock is the sitting member here. I strongly dislike him and will there for preference him dead stone last. After that, Greens second last as they would close trails etc. So by default I guess I'm voting Labor.

If you are seventeen enroll now, just to be ready.
 

brisneyland

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No fucking way would I want Abbott in a leadership position anywhere, let alone a governing party.

His propensity for inflicting his own religious views on the rest of us, who largely DO NOT share his views on gays, abortion, stem cell research etc, is repugnant.

And ludicrous ideas like giving every stay at home mum 10k only serve to highlight the true closet misogynist within.

Mind you, K.Rudd, bitter fucking disappointment that he is, isn't any better, apart perhaps from the whole separation of religious and political views that is.

So is it a true democracy if there's no real alternative?
 

FR Drew

Not a custom title.
I'm with brisneyland. Rudd has been an epic fail. The only positive points I'll allocate to him are that he was actually putting in some stimulus to keep the economy functional. If the Turnbull approach of "shut off all spending" had been followed, we'd have crash dived into recession just like everyone else as our trades and retail sector flatlined.

That said, it has cost a shitload and been poorly managed.
The insulation thing was a good idea, it just got harpooned by dodgy operators.

I have yet to see Abbot do anything functional aside from bitch and complain. He opposes simply because he's in opposition but has yet to offer anything in the way of a credible alternative.

So, the choice to someone who does not much versus someone who doesn't even promise much.
Politics here has turned to crap.

I suppose I could scrape together 5k and go buy myself a nice sunny island in Greece...
 

Ivan

Eats Squid
No fucking way would I want Abbott in a leadership position anywhere, let alone a governing party.

His propensity for inflicting his own religious views on the rest of us, who largely DO NOT share his views on gays, abortion, stem cell research etc, is repugnant.

And ludicrous ideas like giving every stay at home mum 10k only serve to highlight the true closet misogynist within.

Mind you, K.Rudd, bitter fucking disappointment that he is, isn't any better, apart perhaps from the whole separation of religious and political views that is.

So is it a true democracy if there's no real alternative?
Well said. I would add Abbott's view on anthropogenic climate change to that list.

Rudd has been a fairly impotent politician, which makes him a very poor PM, but apart from the Internet filter and some IR reform, his policies are heading in the right direction.

Voting green really isn't an option for me. They would cripple the industries that I work in, and I really don't want to see any more of Christine Milne shouting at me through the TV.
 

brisneyland

Likes Dirt
Well said. I would add Abbott's view on anthropogenic climate change to that list.

Rudd has been a fairly impotent politician, which makes him a very poor PM, but apart from the Internet filter and some IR reform, his policies are heading in the right direction.

Voting green really isn't an option for me. They would cripple the industries that I work in, and I really don't want to see any more of Christine Milne shouting at me through the TV.
His policies are 'heading there' the same way two tectonic plates are 'heading' towards each other. Lot's of talk and theorising, but fuck all action relevant to a human time scale.

Yeah, the greens are pretty ineffective too, but they are still the most likely to get my vote I think - I don't want to waste a vote.
 

24alpha

mtbpicsonline.com
2 things you shouldn't talk about in public....Politics and religon.

You can tell the people that are older and have had to vote a few times before. Talk about jaded.:D

If anyone thinks that any other party has a chance of winner other than Labor or Liberals is insane.

FR Drew, Brisy are spot on. So who do you vote for......the devil you know or the one you don't. The reason Howard was voted out was because eveyone lost confidence in him and his party. That includes Mr Tony Abbott. (And when I say everyone, remember it was a landslide win)
 

FR Drew

Not a custom title.
At present Abbot hasn't even got the support of the coalition caucus (sp?) He got slammed this week trying to float the idea of his mummy bonus payment.

(So paying everyone 900 was fiscally irresponsible, but paying all stay at home mums 10k makes sense? Umm, yeah, right, I understand now...)
 

brisneyland

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(So paying everyone 900 was fiscally irresponsible, but paying all stay at home mums 10k makes sense? Umm, yeah, right, I understand now...)
Just goes to show what price Abbott will pay to stamp his idea of the perfect family on Australian society.

He'd reclaim the 10k if the couple gets divorced if he could.
 

PSYCHO-T

Likes Dirt
Who is lowering alcohol taxes? They will have my vote.

Will be my first time voting so im aloud to stuff it up...
But i am feeling Abbot. As he is agaist the ETS!
 

Middo

Likes Bikes
Well said FR Drew and Brisneyland. My thoughts exactly. Whilst I am disappointed with Rudds term, Abbott does nothing but point the finger of blame (in which he has played a large part in blocking labour's policies). Not a sound platform for government.
 

Ivan

Eats Squid
His policies are 'heading there' the same way two tectonic plates are 'heading' towards each other. Lot's of talk and theorising, but fuck all action relevant to a human time scale.
"heading there" was probably the wrong term to use to express my thoughts, and doesn't properly reflect the level of action that has taken place as you've pointed out. :cool:
 

Australia

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My name is Andrew (imho no sense talking politics unless you are willing to put your name to your opinion). I'll be a first time voter at the next election.

I'll be voting above the line in the House of Representitives for the Liberal candidate (In my seat - Paul Fletcher - he replaced Brendan Nelson). In the senate I'll be voting below the line for the liberal senators, then the nationals, then family first, then all the minor parties, then the ALP, then stone cold last, the Greens. Why not above the line you ask? Because I want the satisfaction of putting the Greens last. Any party which would legalise some presently illicit drugs is not worthy of my vote. More to the point, I find the idea of voting for former members of the CPA (Communists) repugnant.

I studied economics in school, and am now studying economics concurrently with my law degree. Voting Liberal just makes sense to me. The numbers just don't lie.

Secondly, lets be honest. Everything the ALP touches turns to SHIT.
Building the Education Revolution contractors bank accounts fiasco
Roof Insulation electrocution debacle
Bribe the states to secure inconsequential concessions on healthcare
The ETS the people want until you release the details of how much it will actually cost
Massive poorly targetted stimulus spending which doesnt get value for money returns and leaves the nation with a staggering debt load
Abruptly killing off trade talks neccesary to keep the economy strong which aren't pallatable to their union mates
Petrol Watch/ Grocery Watch oops
Internet Filter which WILL slow the internet down and be largely ineffective anyway
Moronic defence investment initiatives for weapons and troop retention
Corrupt Politicians
Psychotic Politicians
The recent K Rudd implosion on the 7:30 report. I think its safe to say Kevin won't be serving another full term. There is no doubt in my mind that a vote for the ALP is a vote for Julia Gillard - and NOBODY wants that!

But in the interests of fairness, lets look at the faillings of the Liberal party
Lack of costings into their programs (Same was said of ALP before last election, actually is always said of Opposition parties. Lets be honest, if you don't have the resources of the treasury department what can you do?)
Very Socially Conservative Leader (Though tbh, this is Australia, and the Liberal party staffers are certainly as bright as their ALP counterparts - in Australias brand of democracy there is not going to be a crazy jump towards Tony Abbotts brand of social conservatives. In order to get his way on some very politically divisive issues Howard gave way on the social progressivism of his High Court justices appointments. The socially progressive faction has a majority in the HCA 5-2)

And above all, Tony Abbott is an avid cyclist and multisports enthusiast. I can't believe RB isn't loving him for that reason alone!

Anyhow, My opinion fwiw.
 

5h1f7y

Likes Dirt
Oh dear....is about all i can say.

It is funny how true labour voters see the liberals for the money hungry pigs they are!

Studing law....i would expect you to vote liberal

Living on the Northern Beaches in a Million Dollar Mansion....I would expect you to vote liberal

Being rich and not wanting drugs legalised.....another classic just let those poor people get poorer.

And to the guy that started this thred....wake up to yourself mate. You think a liberal government is going to do anything more than throw a rug over the living standards of aboriginals. If you truely do care for these causes i wouldnt recomend a liberal vote.

Try to understand what the party itself stands for, and how they conduct themselves as a government rather than point the finger at the guy in the big seat!

We can all be a bit left or right in our political veiws and the real truth is a balanced government over time is what is best for us all at the moment.

I beleive that we should be alot more socialist as a society, and neither government supports a true socialist veiw. When i do vote, most of the time i just get a fine instead i vote for the greens. Although they would make changes that would effect me majorly i beleive they could create a better society for all, and their first preference is labour.

Maybe i should vote for Nationals, after all Farmers in our country are so poor!

pfft what a stupid subject
 
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