Electric Vehicles etc

[Stredda]

I think it has been mentioned here before that Cobalt is used to refine petrol, something that the anti EV crowd either choose to forget or don't know.
Everything we do has an impact on the environment, we just need to make the least amount of impact we can while still living in the modern society that we do.
Lithium mining doesn't need to be the environmental nasty that it is in some places. Unfortunately, it's cheaper to get it from these third world countries. Australia has several lithium mines.

 

[B Rabbit]

The new tesla battery chemistry doesn't use Cobalt does it?

 

[Haakon]

The new tesla battery chemistry doesn't use Cobalt does it?

Tesla made batteries in US and German made Teslas do, the CATL made batteries in Shanghai built Teslas dont.

 

[Scotty T]

I think it has been mentioned here before that Cobalt is used to refine petrol, something that the anti EV crowd either choose to forget or don't know.

While it is all working well oil extraction is not creating toxic lakes and so forth, but then when it goes wrong... Only 200 incidents per year apparently:

"The global thirst for crude oil for transportation, heating, plastic production, and the like have resulted in thousands of oil spills over the years. According to data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which tracks spills throughout the U.S. and abroad, almost 200 incidents have occurred annually for many years running."

The 14 Biggest Oil Spills in History

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[downunderdallas]

I think it has been mentioned here before that Cobalt is used to refine petrol, something that the anti EV crowd either choose to forget or don't know.
Everything we do has an impact on the environment, we just need to make the least amount of impact we can while still living in the modern society that we do.
Lithium mining doesn't need to be the environmental nasty that it is in some places. Unfortunately, it's cheaper to get it from these third world countries. Australia has several lithium mines.

Indeed we have the largest lithium mine in the world at Greenbushes I have been to have a look as I drive past it all the time it's not really very big by WA mine standards, Iron Ore mines in the Pilbara dwarf it as does the super pit in Kalgoorlie. Australia is the worlds biggest lithium supply by a decent margin, again not picked up on by the Anti EV brigade. Tesla gets plenty of lithium from WA but I'm sure there is Chilean brine in their supply chain too.

It's actually one of the rare things that Australia has started refining the raw materials (in limited quantities) rather than just shipping raw materials all directly to China, still a long way from making batteries here but it's a start.

 

[downunderdallas]

Tesla made batteries in US and German made Teslas do, the CATL made batteries in Shanghai built Teslas dont.

I'm pretty sure even Fremont RWD is now shipping with LFP.

 

[Haakon]

I'm pretty sure even Fremont RWD is now shipping with LFP.

Oh yes that’s right - imported CATL packs from the Shanghai plant. But jsut the standard - the performance stuff uses the Panasonic cells from the US gigafactory.

Texas and Berlin Model Y use the new structural packs.

 

[Dales Cannon]

...uses the Panasonic cells...

AA or AAA?

 

[rockmoose]

AA or AAA?

Along those lines, does anyone know if they are still 18650 cells? Or have they moved to 21700?

 

[Squidfayce]

AA or AAA?

Oh wait. This is a serious statement. I thought the cells would have been a custom size, not one you yake out of the remote controls to whack into your pocket rockets when they go flat

 

[Haakon]

Along those lines, does anyone know if they are still 18650 cells? Or have they moved to 21700?

The new cell format is used in the structural packs - Texas and Berlin Model Y. 18650 still used in Performance 3 and Model S and X.

Not sure what they're using in the Semi, but I thought it was the new one but i dont think theyre structural packs.

 

[Stredda]

Oh wait. This is a serious statement. I thought the cells would have been a custom size, not one you yake out of the remote controls to whack into your pocket rockets when they go flat

9v, the most potent of all batteries!

 

[Squidfayce]

9v, the most potent of all batteries!
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are there terminals on the tesla packs you can do this with?

 

[rockmoose]

are there terminals on the tesla packs you can do this with?

Wee on it and find out.

 

[Squidfayce]

Wee on it and find out.

i wonder if weeing on a 9V would do the same as the tounge check....anyone want to try and get back to me?

 

[Haakon]

i wonder if weeing on a 9V would do the same as the tounge check....anyone want to try and get back to me?

Not sure about 9 volt batteries, but can confirm that pissing on an electric fence has the expected effects...

 

[Squidfayce]

Not sure about 9 volt batteries, but can confirm that pissing on an electric fence has the expected effects...

i can confirm this also. not a pleasant experience

 

[Stredda]

i can confirm this also. not a pleasant experience

Not sure about 9 volt batteries, but can confirm that pissing on an electric fence has the expected effects...

Were these accidental incidents or was it some kind of kinky experimentation?

 

[Haakon]

Were these accidental incidents or was it some kind of kinky experimentation?

Accident... Thought it was a friendly bit of foliage against a fence, didn't see the electric line hidden!

 

[Squidfayce]

Were these accidental incidents or was it some kind of kinky experimentation?

pretty much the same as Haakon. Happens more often in rural areas than you think.

I went to boarding school in country NSW for a year and there wasn't one boy that hadn't experienced it at least once. There were a couple that would do it as a dare for a ciggie too., so....yeah there's that lol