Electric Vehicles etc

On a side note how the heck does Tesla get away without a HUD or some kind of in front display of the speedo? Surely this does not meet ADR having to look to the main screen off the side?

I thought that would really annoy me but you don't really notice the issue.

The range in road trips, 4 years ago and the supercharger network was spaced pretty much every 2 hours in major routes. The LR option would let you skip one if you chose, standard range might be pushing it. But tesla and 3rd party options are filling those gaps fast and its really not much of an issue now.
 
Even then I'm not sure. Tesla will sting you less for servicing (there is technically no servicing) but the insurance costs more. The BYD has cheaper insurance but has ridiculous annual serviing to the tune of $800 each shot (to do nothing but look at the car lol)
Check with your local Mycar whether they can still service BYDs. For the Atto3, the annual minor service was $250 from memory and the major service which included some coolant and transmission fluids was around $500 from memory.
 
Check with your local Mycar whether they can still service BYDs. For the Atto3, the annual minor service was $250 from memory and the major service which included some coolant and transmission fluids was around $500 from memory.
I'm pretty sure they dumped them when BYD themselves saw the shit-show the third party importers were creating.

And for our Shark we thought the service pricing was in the ball-park when compared to the Colorado and factoring in the longer service intervals, and we still have an ICE to service.
 
Update, Misso wants the $10k Tesla Full Self driving option FML.

Cost benefit went out the window.
If she's someone who wants FSD, it might save you smash repair, fines and insurance costs in the long run... I mean she's pretty much telling you she texts and drives as it is. :p
 
Update, Misso wants the $10k Tesla Full Self driving option FML.

Cost benefit went out the window.
Ummm.... I'd probably try and talk her out of it. It's not even certain whether the technology is legal in Victoria yet and in other states it's only to be used while the driver "has full supervision and control." So if it wigs out and rear ends someone while the driver's on a TikTok marathon they could still be liable.

Uber(s) may end up being cheaper.
 
Ummm.... I'd probably try and talk her out of it. It's not even certain whether the technology is legal in Victoria yet and in other states it's only to be used while the driver "has full supervision and control." So if it wigs out and rear ends someone while the driver's on a TikTok marathon they could still be liable.

Uber(s) may end up being cheaper.
10k down the drain for the first few years at least, that's how far off it is from being something where you don't need to supervise.
 
Second hand news, but my work mate paid for a month of FSD. He drove Mildura - Brisbane - Mildura and said it was good, but ultra conservative if the road surface wasn't perfect, it would drop down to 80. He also said it wasn't worth the cost around town.
 
Thanks for the feedback, I might just try the monthly subs and see how it goes then.

Also adjusting figures on the lease, what is realistic tyre change for EVs? I know they probably chew through a bit more and my right leg seems to have grown heavier with the instant power. Lease companies vary from 1 to 3 sets of tyres over 5 years (20k kms). I have no idea how mcuh they chew through.
 
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Thanks for the feedback, I might just try the monthly subs and see how it goes then.

Also adjusting figures on the lease, what is realistic tyre change for EVs? I know they probably chew through a bit more and my right leg seems to have grown heavier with the instant power. Lease companies vary from 1 to 3 sets of tyres over 5 years (20k kms). I have no idea how mcuh they chew through.
1 set if it's Michelin's. 2-3 for anything else.

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Update time: Wife is in decision paralysis. I'm pushing her towards the tesla, mainly because I think it's a better long term ownership preposition (looking to lease 5 years and run for another 2/3).

Anyway, thoughts on newer LiFePo in the rwd (meant to be better for degradation) vs paying about $9k to get awd and extended range (adds about 100km) but uses NMC batteries that don't retain capacity as well. Not concerned about awd just want to keep retain as much range for extended ownership.

Thoughts?
 
Update time: Wife is in decision paralysis. I'm pushing her towards the tesla, mainly because I think it's a better long term ownership preposition (looking to lease 5 years and run for another 2/3).

Anyway, thoughts on newer LiFePo in the rwd (meant to be better for degradation) vs paying about $9k to get awd and extended range (adds about 100km) but uses NMC batteries that don't retain capacity as well. Not concerned about awd just want to keep retain as much range for extended ownership.

Thoughts?
LFP will last longer and be more resilient. Also check what the advice is for Tesla's NMC battery for charge state - ie dont charge to full all the time? Can result in the practical range of LPF not beuing that bad as they dont mind being smashed full all the time.

But really, over a short period of 5-7 years either will be fine.
 
AFAICT BYD has a better (the best?) battery system for longevity. But as @Haakon says they all will likely be fine for 5-7 years, even cycling them hard.
 
I'm knee deep in battery cooling designs and about to run a cfd model to test for myself - yep, I'm that level of engineer autist.
LFP batteries will last better, but trade off some power density. As mentioned, they don't care about being fully charged. The blade battery system is also less likely to suffer thermal runaway in an accident.

I've got an AWD Sealion 7 and sat in some of the new Model Ys. The Sealion is the nicer car, and a rocket in AWD form. My only gripe is the visibility is a bit limited compared to the Atto3. The cameras are incredible but I still like to use eyeball mk1 where I can.

Tesla is also pivoting away from cars into robotics if that makes a difference to you.




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Tesla is also pivoting away from cars into robotics if that makes a difference to you.

Something BYD is definitely not doing. Tesla now only has two car models, and a poor excuse for a truck model, and seven years of self driving "coming this year".

Also on Tesla batteries:


Aus Model Y is still packing thousands of 2170. It's one thing I didn't like about the Tesla battery tech, and the 4680 is still nearly a thousand cells, compared to ~100 for BYD or Geely platforms.

If I knew that the cells in the Volvo weren't CATL beforehand it could have influenced my decision. But they will fix the battery issue like any recall so not too pissed about it.
 
Aus Model Y is still packing thousands of 2170.
Model Y rwd appears to be in the newer LFP catl stuff. I looked at the awd and that appears to be the old setup was told the NCM. Google fu tells me usa model ys is pot luck between the batteries (what a joke) and eu got the byd blade whereas we get the lfp - this is all very confusing. Supply chain must be a big huge mess.
 
I apologise in advance
shortly Cadillac will have 2 more models in addition to the Lyriq , one smaller and a bigger unit .
Have just chopped $25 k still pricey - but leasing is easy and the tech is strong - if you like that sort of thing .
Only a thought bubble

carry on as you were
 
I apologise in advance
shortly Cadillac will have 2 more models in addition to the Lyriq , one smaller and a bigger unit .
Have just chopped $25 k still pricey - but leasing is easy and the tech is strong - if you like that sort of thing .
Only a thought bubble

carry on as you were

Cadillac is the only US brand that doesn't stink at the moment. Depending on the buy back conditions on the lease, it could be a good deal.

But outside of car nuts, there will be zero brand recognition.

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