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[moorey]

Indeed. Maybe it’s lost in translation, but he sounds like a douche.

He was absolutely on (beyond) the limit on that descent, which was obviously his pre-race strategy. He nearly binned it hard twice. Could have gone very differently.

Yep. One crash and he would have destroyed droppers for everyone.

 

[ozzybmx]

Yep. One crash and he would have destroyed droppers for everyone.

The UCI cleared dropper seat posts for use in 2014.
Don't know if they would reverse the decision 8yrs later just because the first person to use one crashed.

 

[moorey]

The UCI cleared dropper seat posts for use in 2014.
Don't know if they would reverse the decision 8yrs later just because the first person to use one crashed.

But he controls what goes and what doesn’t, not the UCI!
Lost your sarcasm detector?

 

[Ackland]

I still don't have the terrain for 95% of my riding. YMMV

And yet... rear suspension?

All the power transfer of the Procaliber, none of the coccyx crushing impacts.

I played with the rear lockout as I was riding past the @rockmoose chateau, made fuck all difference. This thing is efficient.

You've been drinking the enduro rider's kool aid... Nah mate, it climbs like a hardtail

 

[creaky]

And yet... rear suspension?

I heard some guy who won a 24 hour race in the US (I didn't mean to listen to it, I promise) say that he ran a 120mm dual suspension bike with no dropper as the suspension made a big difference with comfort on the long rides but the actual terrain didn't warrant dropping the seat post. He also rides gravel, so is obviously a progressive thinker.

 

[moorey]

He also rides gravel, so is obviously a wanker.

FIFY

I do get the resistance to droppers. I see it here all the time from curmudgeons, and listen to their reasoning.

Then they use one, and preach about it more than vegans and ex smokers. Flogs.

 

[creaky]

Flogs.

Who, the vegans and ex smokers? Or just everyone?

 

[moorey]

Who, the vegans and ex smokers? Or just everyone?

Yes. Mainly vegans.

 

[Jpez]

Who, the vegans and ex smokers? Or just everyone?

Just @moorey

 

[moorey]

Just @moorey View attachment 387435

Accurate.

 

[Jpez]

Accurate.

Yes.

 

[moorey]

Yes.

OK

 

[Cardy George]

And yet... rear suspension?



You've been drinking the enduro rider's kool aid... Nah mate, it climbs like a hardtail

It was rear suspension or a black bike. YMMV.

Anyway, just got off it after a proper ride on familiar tracks. Well half the ride was, the first half was mainly on tarmac riding the Sender to school. But then I was on trails, and to take from what Ol Mate @Ackland just said, it climbs better than a hardtail.

Ok, so now I'm sounding like a Boomer who's never even seen a dual suspension bike before. Even with the decoupler, the Procaliber still gets hung up on the little bumps and ridges. With only 60mm travel I was expecting to still feel something. But no, the frame soaks them all up. Which makes it much easier to get into a rhythm and crank along. In fact I tried a climb with it locked out and I reckon it was slower.

It's going to take me a bit to get used to the squish. I started with Trek's recommendations and it feels too soft, but I'm not hitting full travel either. I have all the volume spacers so I can have a play, maybe try and get it to sit a bit higher, but I'll give it some time. Apparently the hardtail ride expectations are going to take awhile to wear off.

@Ultra Lord @ozzybmx The XTR is every bit as direct as the Di2 was when it was new. Didn't miss a shift. With the added bonus of being able to pick a harder gear with my index finger, just like the good ol days! It'll be interesting to see how it goes once everything is a bit old and dirty.

 

[rockmoose]

I think we all need to just calm down until we hear the thoughts of the sensible, knowledgeable and reasonable, Harley Vegan Clown.

 

[shiny]

I think we all need to just calm down until we hear the thoughts of the sensible, knowledgeable and reasonable, Harley Vegan Clown.

Can’t wait.

 

[Ackland]

Anyway, just got off it after a proper ride on familiar tracks. Well half the ride was, the first half was mainly on tarmac riding the Sender to school. But then I was on trails, and to take from what Ol Mate @Ackland just said, it climbs better than a hardtail.

Ok, so now I'm sounding like a Boomer who's never even seen a dual suspension bike before. Even with the decoupler, the Procaliber still gets hung up on the little bumps and ridges. With only 60mm travel I was expecting to still feel something. But no, the frame soaks them all up. Which makes it much easier to get into a rhythm and crank along. In fact I tried a climb with it locked out and I reckon it was slower.

All I'm hearing here is "I'm a lazy rider who expects to plow" which tracks with the N-Doo-Row crew.
Next you'll be cutting corners/high lining because it's the race line and complaining that you can't fit your 800mm+ bars through tight corners

 

[Cardy George]

All I'm hearing here is "I'm a lazy rider who expects to plow" which tracks with the N-Doo-Row crew.

Um, OK? Boomer?

Next you'll be cutting corners/high lining because it's the race line and complaining that you can't fit your 800mm+ bars through tight corners

750. About to be 740. Maybe even 730.

How much rear travel did your Niner have again?

 

[creaky]

All I'm hearing here is "I'm a lazy rider who expects to plow" which tracks with the N-Doo-Row crew.
Next you'll be cutting corners/high lining because it's the race line and complaining that you can't fit your 800mm+ bars through tight corners

Pull back gravel boy

 

[pink poodle]

I still don't have the terrain for 95% of my riding. YMMV

I use one riding to the shops work bar...and so on. Sometimes I forget to pop it up for the 1 climb I occasionally have which is a train bridge.

 

[k3n!f]

Cool bike, congrats. 36,000km on a frame is pretty nuts, certainly got your value from it!

I also don't understand how this isn't closer to the 10kg mark. Did you get a frame weight?

Keen to hear a review of the Pirelli's, I've got some to try for my upcoming build.