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It's actually refreshing to get on FB and not read about over reported fearmongering news. The only thing I'll miss is what's happening locally to me as I rarely watch the idiot box.
You can't exactly blame them for that. When you're trying to get important information out you go where the audience is.Government agencies in particular are insane for using Facebook as their primary information source
This is true, and it really does suck for those orgs. But FB told everyone they'd do this, and it just seems that no-one believed them, or made any contiongency plans for what to do if/when they actually did it...Yesterday I was pretty much:"who cares, bring on the lulz" - but I've since changed my mind a bit.
This disproportionately affects smaller and independent news outlets, and also the community groups (especially socially disadvantaged) who (rightly or wrongly) have implemented Facebook as the way to disseminate information and support. I don't think they should be blamed for setting up with Facebook - it was the mechanism at the time and allowed to develop into what it was without much regulation.
Do I care if Facebook exists? Not really - do I care if we subsequently alienate and disadvantage people because we allowed one bully to get in the ears of our Govt and provoke a retaliation that benefits the larger news media? yup.
The fact that it has affected Community groups shows what a fuck up this is, as a lot of these sites are not what most reasonable people would classify as 'news'. Most genuine news media outlets/ government departments etc have stand alone websites/ apps/ comms through other distribution so I don't really see why people think because shit isn't on Facebook the sky will fall in. People who want information will find it, and preferably through a medium that isn't tuned by algorithm to cater to unconscious/ conscious (delete as appropriate) biases.Yesterday I was pretty much:"who cares, bring on the lulz" - but I've since changed my mind a bit.
This disproportionately affects smaller and independent news outlets, and also the community groups (especially socially disadvantaged) who (rightly or wrongly) have implemented Facebook as the way to disseminate information and support. I don't think they should be blamed for setting up with Facebook - it was the mechanism at the time and allowed to develop into what it was without much regulation.
Do I care if Facebook exists? Not really - do I care if we subsequently alienate and disadvantage people because we allowed one bully to get in the ears of our Govt and provoke a retaliation that benefits the larger news media? yup.
Well actually you probably can. They started this beef, if they are so reliant upon providing information via this source then why jeopardise it? The government started this pissing contest and quickly found their stream is far less powerful.You can't exactly blame them for that. When you're trying to get important information out you go where the audience is.
Everything you read is an opinion. What you take on board is your own choice.That’s because you have some basic critical thought abilities. By no stretch of the imagination a universal situation.
Absolutely, knowing that News Corp invested in MySpace once upon a time which ended up getting sunk by the FB Zuck.Isn't it a bit like asking the newspaper delivery person to pay you for the privilege of delivering your news.
Smells like Murdoch is lurking somewhere in this.
Except the newspaper delivery boy doesn't make a fuck tonne of advertising revenue on the side instead of minimum wage. I get that Farcebook is providing a free delivery service, but I can see the side of the argument that they are rent seekers relying on unpaid creative content of others.Isn't it a bit like asking the newspaper delivery person to pay you for the privilege of delivering your news.
Smells like Murdoch is lurking somewhere in this.
....and making absolute boatloads selling their user's data.Except the newspaper delivery boy doesn't make a fuck tonne of advertising revenue on the side instead of minimum wage. I get that Farcebook is providing a free delivery service, but I can see the side of the argument that they are rent seekers relying on unpaid creative content of others.
I think it'd be wrong to assume that they RELY on this content. They provide a platform for people to share, they're popular and worldwide so it's in the user's interest to take advantage of the platform. If you don't like the platform and the way they operate, pick a different platform.Except the newspaper delivery boy doesn't make a fuck tonne of advertising revenue on the side instead of minimum wage. I get that Farcebook is providing a free delivery service, but I can see the side of the argument that they are rent seekers relying on unpaid creative content of others.
The fossil industry does pay up, it's just in a novel way via lobbying and bribing politicians rather than all that boring tax stuff.And while we're on tax, get the fossil fuel industry to pay up too. If you're going to chase down the tech industry, you need to do the same across the board...
They certainly don't rely on the Australian content, but news content makes them relevant globally, which in turn brings in the advertising $$ which runs the company. That's why they are going hard on Australia because this has global ramifications.I think it'd be wrong to assume that they RELY on this content. They provide a platform for people to share, they're popular and worldwide so it's in the user's interest to take advantage of the platform. If you don't like the platform and the way they operate, pick a different platform.
Facebook are the devil, no doubt. They should be paying their fair share like the rest of us plebs, also no doubt. But forcing them to pay for other people using their platform is backwards as fark, you don't call up the newspaper and tell them they need to pay you to run an ad in the paper
And while we're on tax, get the fossil fuel industry to pay up too. If you're going to chase down the tech industry, you need to do the same across the board...
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Hang on let me find the world's smallest violin it's here somewherePoor Rupert will be apoplectic.
'This situation is quite different': Facebook's news ban hits media's website traffic by 13 per cent
Traffic to Australian news websites fell in the hours following Facebook's news ban and audiences overall have not shifted to new platforms, according to data from web analytics company Chartbeat.www.abc.net.au
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