Great, now I don't like my new forks - Pyga Hyrax build thread

Mattyp said:
Air shaft has a negative and positive air side...when you let air out of the valve while fork is extended it empties the positive side so the shaft sucks down...
Just put some air in it and it will extend out, normal.
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Thanks,

How is it that in all the Sram service videos that they have both of the shafts extended. What are they doing that I'm doing differently?
 
Dunno about SRAM, but normally with Fox forks if you release the air in stages and cycle the forks through the first ~1/3 of travel it'll allow the chambers to equalise and the air spring leg will (mostly) extend by itself or be able to be pulled down with minimal force.
 
Thanks for all the advice, all. Fork is back on the bike and running perfectly.

Too perfectly, I don't like it.

It lives up to all the claims on the brochure, it truly is amazing what this fork can do and it is a genuine generational advancement on the last Lyrik. The best words I can use to describe it are "pure butter". I really appreciate how it handles the big hits, these old wrists lap up the kind of pampering the Lyrik offers on drops and heavy landings.

But it's the overall plushness of the fork that I don't really go for. I've got it pumped up 10% more than my weight requires and both the low and high speed compression on full. But it still just glides over the hits, bumps and ruts like they're hardly there. I don't understand what the point of that is. I liked pinballing about, sketching out, skipping across things and riding on the edge of controlled chaos. If I want smooth riding, I'll buy a roadie.

For this reason I've always run pretty firm suspension. But these forks are too good, even when they are as firm as you can go, they still turn the hits into little fluffy while clouds that chuckle "teehee" as you glide over them.

When I get my 100hrs service, I might consider chucking a heavy damper in them to see if that can get a bit of the mountain back under my bike.
 
What's your postal address @johnny ? I've got some seized up old forks under the stairs that I'll send you so you can relive your pinball wizard dreams.
 
johnny said:
Thanks for all the advice, all. Fork is back on the bike and running perfectly.

Too perfectly, I don't like it.

It lives up to all the claims on the brochure, it truly is amazing what this fork can do and it is a genuine generational advancement on the last Lyrik. The best words I can use to describe it are "pure butter". I really appreciate how it handles the big hits, these old wrists lap up the kind of pampering the Lyrik offers on drops and heavy landings.

But it's the overall plushness of the fork that I don't really go for. I've got it pumped up 10% more than my weight requires and both the low and high speed compression on full. But it still just glides over the hits, bumps and ruts like they're hardly there. I don't understand what the point of that is. I liked pinballing about, sketching out, skipping across things and riding on the edge of controlled chaos. If I want smooth riding, I'll buy a roadie.

For this reason I've always run pretty firm suspension. But these forks are too good, even when they are as firm as you can go, they still turn the hits into little fluffy while clouds that chuckle "teehee" as you glide over them.

When I get my 100hrs service, I might consider chucking a heavy damper in them to see if that can get a bit of the mountain back under my bike.
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Just fill the negative with grease.
 
johnny said:
Thanks for all the advice, all. Fork is back on the bike and running perfectly.

Too perfectly, I don't like it.

It lives up to all the claims on the brochure, it truly is amazing what this fork can do and it is a genuine generational advancement on the last Lyrik. The best words I can use to describe it are "pure butter". I really appreciate how it handles the big hits, these old wrists lap up the kind of pampering the Lyrik offers on drops and heavy landings.

But it's the overall plushness of the fork that I don't really go for. I've got it pumped up 10% more than my weight requires and both the low and high speed compression on full. But it still just glides over the hits, bumps and ruts like they're hardly there. I don't understand what the point of that is. I liked pinballing about, sketching out, skipping across things and riding on the edge of controlled chaos. If I want smooth riding, I'll buy a roadie.

For this reason I've always run pretty firm suspension. But these forks are too good, even when they are as firm as you can go, they still turn the hits into little fluffy while clouds that chuckle "teehee" as you glide over them.

When I get my 100hrs service, I might consider chucking a heavy damper in them to see if that can get a bit of the mountain back under my bike.
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johnny said:
Thanks for all the advice, all. Fork is back on the bike and running perfectly.

Too perfectly, I don't like it.

It lives up to all the claims on the brochure, it truly is amazing what this fork can do and it is a genuine generational advancement on the last Lyrik. The best words I can use to describe it are "pure butter". I really appreciate how it handles the big hits, these old wrists lap up the kind of pampering the Lyrik offers on drops and heavy landings.

But it's the overall plushness of the fork that I don't really go for. I've got it pumped up 10% more than my weight requires and both the low and high speed compression on full. But it still just glides over the hits, bumps and ruts like they're hardly there. I don't understand what the point of that is. I liked pinballing about, sketching out, skipping across things and riding on the edge of controlled chaos. If I want smooth riding, I'll buy a roadie.

For this reason I've always run pretty firm suspension. But these forks are too good, even when they are as firm as you can go, they still turn the hits into little fluffy while clouds that chuckle "teehee" as you glide over them.

When I get my 100hrs service, I might consider chucking a heavy damper in them to see if that can get a bit of the mountain back under my bike.
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You need more low speed compression and less tokens in your air spring.

You would love a Mezzer.

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This ^ and shock pumps can be 20% or more out of whack. I always go off sag, then feel, then travel used.
So many settings affect how a fork works, I'm still not all over it... Nevermind all the little smarts manufacturers add :rolleyes:
 
shiny said:
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To a degree I am. If I could make the forks stiffer on the smaller HSC hits and keep them as they are for the bigger one of hits like drops, etc., then I'd be stoked.

These forks really are a wonder of modern engineering, I'm quite in awe regards the advancement between generations of this model.
 
Tubbsy said:
NASA-level SRAM engineers: "we worked overtime for four years to make this fork perfect"
Man on internet: "This should be more shit"
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Theu are just thankful they were able to get jobs after NASA funding was slashed to prop up space x.
 
johnny said:
To a degree I am. If I could make the forks stiffer on the smaller HSC hits and keep them as they are for the bigger one of hits like drops, etc., then I'd be stoked.

These forks really are a wonder of modern engineering, I'm quite in awe regards the advancement between generations of this model.
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Air pressures and playing with tokens may get the results you want.
 
There's a reason that pre-electronic shit manual sports cars are so sought after - low speed thrills.

I love tackling some green trails on the gravel bike, it knocks your forearms around and it feels fast and fun. It's like being back in the 90s!
 
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