Having to defend analogue…

Put into context, it's a very valid concern, whether you're riding Eeeeeebed or not. When you're exploring places where you don't know how far you may go or how long you could be out, battery anxiety is A Big Thing, and should be a very major point in considering whether to go Eee or not. You can stave it off a bit by forking out an extra $1000-ish for a backup battery, but there's an extra 5+kg you're carrying on your body on top of your normal riding pack. And if the battery does go flat, or you turn it off, or exceed the assisted speed limit, not only are you left riding a heavy bike, but due to inherent drag in the motor system, a heavy bike that also feels like the bottom bracket and wheel bearings are flogged out. They are utter dogs to ride unpowered (and bad enough when they are powered). You don't want a bike like that when you're possibly pushing your personal fitness limits. It is very much something to think about if (or pressured into) considering switching from a me-powered bike to an Eeeb.
Most of the Ebikes released over the last few years pedal no different from a normal bike when the motor not assisting as the have a clutch/freehub that uncouples the motor, albeit a bit heavier. I've ridden my Levo SL on 30+km rides with the motor off and it's fine. It does "feel" like there is a lot of drag if you have been riding with assistance and then turn it off, but that's all in your mind. If you start a ride with it off, it's just a heavy bike. The weight difference is only the difference from a road bike to an enduro bike so it's not like you are lugging around 50kg or something. I've never worried about range anxiety, just like riding a normal bike and if you are planning a big ride, you don't take off at full sprint, you pace yourself. With the Eeeb you just use a lower assistance and if you do run out of battery you just have a slower ride out. It's not like you have to park the bike and wait for a tow truck.
 
Most of the Ebikes released over the last few years pedal no different from a normal bike when the motor not assisting as the have a clutch/freehub that uncouples the motor, albeit a bit heavier. I've ridden my Levo SL on 30+km rides with the motor off and it's fine. It does "feel" like there is a lot of drag if you have been riding with assistance and then turn it off, but that's all in your mind. If you start a ride with it off, it's just a heavy bike. The weight difference is only the difference from a road bike to an enduro bike so it's not like you are lugging around 50kg or something. I've never worried about range anxiety, just like riding a normal bike and if you are planning a big ride, you don't take off at full sprint, you pace yourself. With the Eeeb you just use a lower assistance and if you do run out of battery you just have a slower ride out. It's not like you have to park the bike and wait for a tow truck.
Totally agree, I got off my Relay (with no power) and pedaled a friend's Specialized meat bike, we both agreed the relay without power was easier to pedal.
 
@Stredda Ebikes have just fucked the line between moto and non motorised bike. May as well throw the “if ur gonna ride a bike with a moto just get a dirt bike and stick to the fireroads”

the 2nd best thing to smoking darts on the climb with an eebs is the excuses that come out when passed on a climb.

“sorry it’s my cheat day” - that’s every day u spud

“Ha, u will probably catch me on the downs anyway” - fuck no, I ain’t coming down the grade 3 flow kook fest

“I rode the other bike yesterday” - yeah righto, how about u pick up the shovel next time and slap some corners.

like shit man, I get it. U feel guilty about using a bike with motorised assistance in the bush, u consistently expect to cop a Large amount of shit if someone else sees u. And that’s because at the end of the day riding eebs is like riding a fat chick / dude. Sure it might be fun but unless ur m8s are into it, u probably should be embarrassed - if u actually care what anyone else thinks.

Eeb riding is the indulgent hedonism of the outdoor world and really that’s ok. I have one and it’s great and I’m going to get another (and pretend it’s for the other half lol) but I’m going to wear the gimp suit with pride and punch another B&H smooth on the way up cos fuck it, why not. Until they are banned I’m just another prick that should be riding a dirt bike on the fireroads.
 
Totally agree, I got off my Relay (with no power) and pedaled a friend's Specialized meat bike, we both agreed the relay without power was easier to pedal.

Those things are beautiful. I've ridden the fazua and they are hands down the best natural feeling motor system out there. It's leaps and bounds ahead of anything else ive ridden including the shimano, bosch and yamaha offerings.

like shit man, I get it. U feel guilty about using a bike with motorised assistance in the bush

I think I had ebike guilt for like maybe half a ride. Then I stopped caring lol. Now I know what it feels like to be a porsche owner and everyone thinks I'm a wanker, but idgaf because having fun lol.
 
Would you gentlemen have a spare second to hear about our lord and savior? ...

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@Stredda Ebikes have just fucked the line between moto and non motorised bike. May as well throw the “if ur gonna ride a bike with a moto just get a dirt bike and stick to the fireroads”

the 2nd best thing to smoking darts on the climb with an eebs is the excuses that come out when passed on a climb.

“sorry it’s my cheat day” - that’s every day u spud

“Ha, u will probably catch me on the downs anyway” - fuck no, I ain’t coming down the grade 3 flow kook fest

“I rode the other bike yesterday” - yeah righto, how about u pick up the shovel next time and slap some corners.

like shit man, I get it. U feel guilty about using a bike with motorised assistance in the bush, u consistently expect to cop a Large amount of shit if someone else sees u. And that’s because at the end of the day riding eebs is like riding a fat chick / dude. Sure it might be fun but unless ur m8s are into it, u probably should be embarrassed - if u actually care what anyone else thinks.

Eeb riding is the indulgent hedonism of the outdoor world and really that’s ok. I have one and it’s great and I’m going to get another (and pretend it’s for the other half lol) but I’m going to wear the gimp suit with pride and punch another B&H smooth on the way up cos fuck it, why not. Until they are banned I’m just another prick that should be riding a dirt bike on the fireroads.
You don't think that mountain biking in general isn't hedonism? I'm pretty sure we all do it for fun and for fun's sake and a bit of fitness is a side benefit. If you think otherwise, you're kidding yourself and should just lock yourself in a dark room on a spin bike.
I don't feel guilty about riding with motorised assistance at all. Yes, I do expect to cop a large amount of shit but so what?
I ride my Eeeb for fun just like I ride my Stumpy for fun and I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks.
 
LOL then why are you in here defending e bikes to all comers?
I just find it amusing that there's so much butt hurt about Ebikes. Then there all the "evidence" of why they ruin the trails or cause people to get lost on the wilderness and everyone that rides one is fat and lazy and are just kidding themselves and never helps maintain the trails. (which is all bullshit BTW)

Just ride your bloody bike and don't get so bent out of shape about what someone else is riding. If you are so sensitive that if some Ebike rider suggests that you should give one a go, and that ruins your day, your life really isn't that hard, now is it.

Next thing you know, someone that rides a single speed will be complaining that riders with gears keep telling them how good they are sook about how geared bikes chew up the climbs with their endless crank spinning. :p
 
Next thing you know, someone that rides a single speed will be complaining that riders with gears keep telling them how good they are sook about how geared bikes chew up the climbs with their endless crank spinning. :p

Funny story: A long while ago in the Farkin days I called a bloke a sook. Next thing I know I have a request for my contact details as a legal type person needed to get in touch with me. Now this was before Prince Halapatato from Nigeria wanted to be your sugar daddy and give you $1,500,000 just because he wanted someone else to shelve it. I played along to a point and received an email from an actual legal entity telling me I was being served for harassment and defamation and all sorts of scary made up words. Turns out this fucking sook that I called a fucking sook on Farkin had some whacked out religous belief based on his South African heritage that alleged being called a sook was extremely offensive. I told his lawyer mate to fuck off on an email and via telephone as he was stupid enough to have it on his letterhead. The fucking sook guy had made a little boo boo by saying in another thread on this fine site that he was looking forward to a downhill race he was doing in NSW in the coming weeks. Turns out I had a little bit of sway with some event organizing so I combined that with the super powers the Rotorburn staff have and found out the Gentleman's name (Fucking sook we'll call him). I don't know if any of you would remember but I called this guy out on here and said that he can solve all his beef with me at this particular race event as we'd both be there enjoying the fruits of downhill racing. In a flurry of events, his entry was requested to be refunded, his fuckhead lawyer mate had sent a copy & paste email saying there would be no further action and we never heard from the moron again. For a few years after that I scanned entry lists for this jerks name but to no avail. Maybe now I'll start looking again for the squids entering a downhill race on an ebike................................:p
 
@Lazmo - I am fairly sure we met maybe 30 yrs ago at a Suzuki thing in Sydney ( was a GP thing )
And reading your ride reports , you love the ‘ ride ‘
I don’t think you’ve held back - as I get older , I have less fucks to give about what others think , whether here , there or actually anywhere .
Ride what ever , whenever the mood takes you , I mean I’ve got a fatbike , and n ebike.
I feel the greatest crimes will be I have a diesel car and a Harley hahahahaaha

oxoxo , just ride .
Your Harley definitely makes up for the oil burner.
Mohammed told me God rides a Harley anyways
 
@Lazmo - I am fairly sure we met maybe 30 yrs ago at a Suzuki thing in Sydney ( was a GP thing )

And reading your ride reports , you love the ‘ ride ‘

I feel the greatest crimes will be I have a diesel car and a Harley hahahahaaha

I'm often wrong, but I think you may have met someone else (who is probably equally suave and sophisticated, ha ha) because the only bike events I've been to in NSW was Bathurst a few times and Oran Park. In those days it was on either a R90/6 or a kitted K2 Honda.

But, yes... I do love the ' ride '

And our only car is a diesel too, but Sue drives it to work, so during the week, the SS50 gets ridden locally, or the VStrom if I need to go further. I'm getting soft though, because if it's raining, I stay home.
 
I have only known a few Mohammeds in my life, they were all funny c***s, weird for such a strict religion

Yep, one my best mates from work, is an Iranian engineer called Mo, a total atheist. He's a ratbag and great value.
 
@Calvin27 this is the best attitude. Y would I care when I’m getting 4x as many laps. Can’t hear the sledgin over my 250W

@Stredda eebs is like when u go to the pub to catch up with m8s but u have a bag as well. After all couple of nose beers and a few mangos (wot a combo). Then one of the lads safreak (who’s on a Surron of course) wants to fire up the glass bbq. And shit, before u know it ur cutting laps around Suncorp stadium teabagging Wally Lewis. Now whilst it’s great fun running a train on Wally with the boys, if everyone else is still in the beer garden nursing that pint ya probably goin to look like a bit of egg.


Basically eebs ≈ mtb meth. But hey man some people like that shit, so power to ‘em. If people are going to expect me to be a e-cock, I’m doing them a disservice pretending otherwise. Lean right into that stereotype m8, it’s liberating. In a time where trail access and building pirate trails is contentious with parks, bringing the eebs is the ultimate boomer move. Fuck you, I’ve got mine and I’m gunna cut as many laps in that one hour window as I can. And like fuck am I gunna miss out on that. If u think parks will differentiate an eeb, chipped eeb, surron or stark varg well m8 I got sum hand cut loamers to show ya. A surron is an eebs, it just has the cranks on the handlebars. Braaap


If I see ya out on the trail I’ll pull over at the top once I’ve blasted past on the surron and we can share a toke and laugh at all the analog plebs grinding up.

Also if u need a chip to run the eebs at 50k I can sort u out with that. Farkin yewwwwwww time to punch some darts and break sum hearts


Unless I’m on the trail bike then I’ll gatekeep the pirate trails and ignore u. (probably wouldn’t like them anyway)



TLDR: if u don’t think u can handle the shit from ridin an eeb just start taking meth. There’s less stigma
 
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