Hibike, Starbike, no more Sram to Australia!

caad9

Likes Dirt
NX & GX have made wide range gearing very accessible, but they are the flimsiest pieces of kit I've ever seen.
I went from a bike which had 11sp XX1 to 12sp GX and the difference is huge.

My riding has changed along with the swap, but I wouldn't want to be racing with GX
 

BT180

Eats Squid
Agree! Was one of the minuses when selecting my new bike. Previous bike had X01 11-speed which was bomber, but new one has GX Eagle. Weak as piss.
 

Haakon

Not happy, Jan.
Agree! Was one of the minuses when selecting my new bike. Previous bike had X01 11-speed which was bomber, but new one has GX Eagle. Weak as piss.
Yeah, I made this same swap. I brought back most of the goodness with an eagle XO1 shifter.
 

Haakon

Not happy, Jan.
I found the actual shifting feel ok, but the derailleur was flimsy AF
Huh. Opposite for me - rear mech I haven’t given two thoughts to, but the XO1 shifter improved things markedly.

Which in itself was odd because they’re largley identical internally...

But even with the XO1 shifter it’s not as sweet as the 11sp XO1 I had on the Amthem - that was lovely snickity click precision.
 

Nambra

Postmeridian
I found the actual shifting feel ok, but the derailleur was flimsy AF
There’s a big difference between the X01 and GX Eagle derailleur in terms of play in the moving parts. You can wobble the lower bottom of the GX cage maybe +/- 5mm compared to perhaps +/- 2mm with the X01. There's just a more precise feel to the X01 as you'd expect, but at ~$300 for the X01 derailleur I can appreciate why you're more than happy sticking with Shimano 11-speed in your stable.
 
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slider_phil

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Only a matter of time before an XT 12spd group. Unfortunately with the geoblock it's likely to be as over priced here as Sram
 

moorey

Pagophagic
I’ll be in no rush. Really no need for more than 42t rear for me. Any bigger, and the derailleurs are stupidly long anyway.
 

slider_phil

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I’ll be in no rush. Really no need for more than 42t rear for me. Any bigger, and the derailleurs are stupidly long anyway.
That's why I like the look of the new Shimano 10-45 12spd. I want nice close gearing like the current 11spd XTR 11-40. You can run the new medium cage derailleur with that one too which I really like.

Currently trying an E-Thirteen 9-46 with with 11spd and the jumps in the higher gears are a bit too big for me. The 11-40 is about perfect but I start wishing for a lower gear to keep my cadence up on longer climbs.
 

SummitFever

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... I want nice close gearing like the current 11spd XTR 11-40...
Couldn't agree more. I really like the ratios on the XTR 11-40. I also like the 10 speed 11-32. It's great with the 3x drivetrain on my Anthem but I'm also running the 11-34 on the Spitty with a single ring. For longer rides cadence is very important so having the closer ratios is great. I'm thinking about going 2x (from 1x) on my Trance 29er and using the Ultegra 11 speed 11-32 rear cassette. Because of the big jumps between gears on the wide ratio cassettes I do find the 1x drivetrains a compromise.

Also, the cheap wide ratio cassettes are so stupidly heavy that a 2x system with 11-32 cassette is actually lighter and the cassettes are only $50 each.
 

DeBloot

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Only a matter of time before an XT 12spd group. Unfortunately with the geoblock it's likely to be as over priced here as Sram
I'm old and my knees are fecked
Anything over 1.5 hours and I need a bail out gear bigger than 42 for steeper climbs
But jeebus, the cost of a 12 speed upgrade is horrific
No choice but XTR atm as I have always used Shitmano and just can't quite get my head around a change
Doesn't look like much of a cost saving anyway
I guess we can kiss the good old days goodbye
I'll stick to my 26'' and 10 speed for a while yet
 

JTmofo

XC Enthusiast
I'm old and my knees are fecked
Anything over 1.5 hours and I need a bail out gear bigger than 42 for steeper climbs
But jeebus, the cost of a 12 speed upgrade is horrific
No choice but XTR atm as I have always used Shitmano and just can't quite get my head around a change
Doesn't look like much of a cost saving anyway
I guess we can kiss the good old days goodbye
I'll stick to my 26'' and 10 speed for a while yet
12 Speed shitmano runs a propriety "microspline" hub driver. I reckon this alone will push people towards the long running XD and Sram.
 

tkdbboy

Likes Dirt
my 11sp Sunrace / XT / XTR setup was more reliable than the 12sp GX I'm running.

Performance wise they both go click and change gears smoothly.
Credibility: I keep climbing to a minimal
 

DeBloot

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12 Speed shitmano runs a propriety "microspline" hub driver. I reckon this alone will push people towards the long running XD and Sram.
So I can't use my existing 10 speed 'fecked if i can remember what hub it is' with the new 12 speed
 
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