L'officiel Le Tour 2009 Thread!

addmin

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if a rider ends up with more than one jersey under their belt, eg, the polkerdot and green jerseys, which one would they wear...

and has anyone ever ended up winning multiple jerseys at the end of the race/>
 

Lorday

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if a rider ends up with more than one jersey under their belt, eg, the polkerdot and green jerseys, which one would they wear...

and has anyone ever ended up winning multiple jerseys at the end of the race/>
Armstrong held multiple jerseys at one stage did he not? Yellow would be priority for most though.
 

dain2772

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i think that the higher level jersey is the one worn,with yellow then white the top two - contador when he won a few years ago was eligible for the white, but because he took the yellow, someone else got the white.

not sure how the polka vs green works though, I am sure there is a more knowledgable person waiting for a question like this!
 

Bodin

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not sure how the polka vs green works though, I am sure there is a more knowledgable person waiting for a question like this!
It's probably a moot point, because I don't think you'll find many sprinters attacking the big hills for climbing points or climbers testing their legs against the likes of Cavendish and Hushovd.

It's technically feasible early in the race because of a solo breakaway, but highly unlikely the later it gets.
 

alchemist

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and has anyone ever ended up winning multiple jerseys at the end of the race/>
Since 1960 (you can look yourself if you want the rest):

2007 Contador Yellow & White
1997 Ulrich Yellow & White
1983 Fignon Yellow & White
1979 Hinault Yellow & Green
1972 Merckx Yellow & Green
1971 Merckx Yellow & Green
1970 Merckx Yellow & Polkadot (only 5 points off green)
1969 Merckx Yellow, Green & Polkadot (would have won white if it exisited)

 
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C Dunlop

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The second place rider in the category of the lesser jersey wears the jersey for the following days stage. For example, if Hushovd were to gap the field by on hour or two and lead the GC standings, then Cav would wear the green jersey for him, while thor would wear the yellow, but come the end of the tour thor would be the winner of both. There is some tradition about keeping all of the jerseys on the road, or something.
 

top_oz_bloke

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ok, looking back through the historical results, overall wins in multiple classifications have been achieved numerous times.

The only rider to win overall, points and mountain titles in the one race was Mercx in 1969. He was also under 26 at the time so would have claimed the youth title if it had existed. This is the only time one rider has claimed both the mountain and points title.

Overall win and mountain title in the one race has been achieved 8 times - 1938 (Bartali), 1939 (Maes), 1948 (Bartali), 1949 & 1952 (Coppi), 1959 (Bahamontes), 1969 & 1970 (Mercx).

Overall win and points title in the one race has been achieved 4 times - 1969, 1971 & 1972 (Mercx), 1979 (Hinault)

Overall and youth title in the one race has been done 3 times - 1983 (Fignon), 1997 (Ullrich), 2007 (Contador)

Bear in mind the mountain competition only came into existance in 1933, points came in 1953 and youth in 1975 so give credit to the early doubles as they scored a clean sweep of all the titles available.

Looking at pre 1975 overall winners reveals 14 riders who would have also won the youth title if it had existed - Cornet (1904, youngest ever winner), Trousselier (1905), Petit-Breton (1907 & 1908), Faber (1909), Lapize (1910), Defraye (1912), Thys (1913, 1914), Maes (1935), Bartali (1938), Anquetil (1957), Gaul (1958), Gimondi (1965), Aimar (1966), Mercx (1969 & 1970).

Also, no post 1975 rider has claimed the youth title in conjunction with either the mountain or the points titles, however Bobet (1950) and Van Impe (1972) were the best placed U26 riders when they claimed their mountain titles. Mercx was also U26 when he took overall and mountain in 1970 and as such would have claimed the youth title if it had existed.

An interesting (but not unexpected) stat is that, excluding the youth titles, 1979 was the last time a rider claimed dual titles. One would assume this is because more specialists are competing for each title.

Yeah, I have a little spare time on my hands :)
 

Robb

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Wow, incredible to see Armstrong close that gap down to catch the Contador group.. But where was Evans? Another 2 minutes lost. Hopefully he can close some of that down in the descent...
And Jens Voigt is down! nasty crash.
 

Emmett

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Wow, incredible to see Armstrong close that gap down.. But where was Evans? Another 2 minutes lost. Hopefully he can close some of that down in the descent...
Armstrong closed the gap well. I would like to know if he is still a contender as far as Astana management are concerned or if he is now another domestic for Contador?

As for Cadel, I think it's fair to say he is out of contention.

Poor Jens... That didn't look pretty. Hope he is ok.
 

Emmett

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Astarloza (I thought it was Van den Broeck from reading the screen) is pinning down the hill. Amazing to watch! makes me want to do shuttle runs on a road bike :D
 
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Spanky_Ham

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Spanky would like to publicly thank Jens Voigt for being a great person, and a freakn good rider... sad to see you out of there Jens..... but.... that was a mightly frekn awesome faceplant!!! And skidding down the road on your face, just to prove how tough you are.... shee-it, white boi!!! full face helmet for you next tour...


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akashra

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It looks like his handlebars broke from underneath him - they're traveling down still in his hands a few frames before the rest of the bike goes down. Nasty.
 

ja_har

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Yeah, I was just surprise at how much he got dropped I guess. Hasn't had a very good tour at all..
What's Cadel's contract situation? I'm starting to thinking by year end he and Silence Lotto will be going different directions....
 

Morgan123

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No way he can win the tour now unless he pulls off something big tomorrow and in the time trial.

I hope he does leave silence lotto, done nothing for him in the last 2 years. Only has one real team mate to rely on...
 
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addmin

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Spanky would like to publicly thank Jens Voigt for being a great person, and a freakn good rider... sad to see you out of there Jens..... but.... that was a mightly frekn awesome faceplant!!! And skidding down the road on your face, just to prove how tough you are.... shee-it, white boi!!! full face helmet for you next tour...


:(


s
+99999


he is possibly my favourite rider in the tour.
 

C Dunlop

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Jens' crash was stomach churning. Apparantly he is OK though with the damage being road rash, concussion and a fractured cheek bone. He hit the deck hard.

 
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