Hambo
"I did a lot of very fat people"
$119 from Pushys if you don't care about Rainbow colour
Ludicrously expensive bike stuff
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$119 from Pushys if you don't care about Rainbow colour
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
Its not a honey hole if it doesn't ship here. I have the XX1 Rainbows on my Spur and Deviate
Hambo
"I did a lot of very fat people"
Its not a honey hole if it doesn't ship here. I have the XX1 Rainbows on my Spur and Deviate
Very true, hence the ending of 'if you can find a way'..
BTW, are the high end SRAM chains more durable than Shimano XT/XTR?
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
By the ones who have tested them extensively, yes XX1 and X0 are the longest wearing chains but probably nothing we would notice really.
Clean chains, good shifting, regular application of lube will probably make a bigger difference.
I hate rusty chains and the Linkglide, which is not on this chart has taken top spot as the longest lasting chain... but rusts like hell.
Mr Crudley
Glock in your sock
I wonder if longer chain life = more wear on the cassette as result?
Ackland
chats d'élevage
Again depends on cleanliness and will depend on the material hardness of the parts
eg Hard chain, grit and AliExp Alloy cheese cassette - Fast Cassette wear
Stredda
Runs naked through virgin scrub
I have heard anecdotally that the best combo is an XX1/X0 chain and a cheaper all steel cassette is the best for wear.
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
The teeth on a cassette and the spacing on a new chain should mesh correctly. As the chain wears/stretches, it makes the roller spacing longer which wears the cassette.
So a slower stretching chain should be better, though a cheaper chain kept in check should be ok too.
Mr Crudley
Glock in your sock
Steel cassettes are a great balance for longevity and reliability IMHO. Maybe the two biggest rings in alloy for a bit of weigh weenieing.
Going from 11 speed and up with more chain deflection can't be helpful either.
Isildur
The Real Pedant
Depends on what you're using is for. As a cleaning agent for filthy stuff, it's not the best, for instance giving the parts mat a wipe down.
But it generally evaoprates off faster and leaves no residue, and a bit easier to work with. At work we have a few things it gets used for in pre or post cleaning of serviced items, but in the shed the quick list I can think of is:
- Fork service, for inside stanchions, spring shafts, lowers, post service wiping down
- post brake bleed clean up
- frame prep for adhesive/cable rub patches
All of which I've done in the last week alone building up a new bike for the mini-me.
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
Or go Linkglide, where you get super thick steel cassette cogs with the LG chain.
Alternatively as you said, a nice XX1 chain with a steelie, which has ruined their hopes of you destroying a light $700 XX1 cassette. Then you get the longevity of the cassette and a nice rainbow chain that doesn't rust.
On an eeb, don't even waste your time with a cheap or expensive regular Sram/Shimano chain, the ebike will stretch them out really quick.
GX 12 - 500km
XX1 12 - 800km
Linkglide 11 hot waxed - 800-900km
Linkglide 11 factory gunk and squirt = 1200km
Chain Life
I built my ebike from the frame, so am using 10 speed not sure that12 speed with a52 cog is needed on an ebike
www.rotorburn.com
Chain Life
No. Clean as a whistle :cool: ‘Clear as a whistle’ is the saying. Whistles are absolutely filthy.
www.rotorburn.com
Ackland
chats d'élevage
Have you tried going back to 10sp stuff on an eeb?
ozzybmx
taking a shit with my boobs out
The chain for the Linkglide 10 & 11 is the same but the Linkglide 11spd derailleur is XT Shadow vs the 10spd Linkglide mech at Deore level. Also the shifter shifts 1 at a time vs 2-3.
I have zero issues with the 11spd. Apparently 11spd Linkglide needed a new shifter and derailleur, but I smashed the 11spd on the River Trail (the rooty dip
) and fitted the 12spd XT temporarily, it worked fine with the 11spd shifter. So the pull must be very similar or the same, just slightly bigger/smaller gaps.
Freediver
I can go full Karen
I'd use metho for all of the above and more, it's not as friendly to skin but because it evaporates that little bit slower I think it soaks in a bit more.
I've been called a tight arse before but just never saw the point in spending the extra.
fjohn860
Alice in diaperland
I had read that due to the additives in metho it can leave a behind a residue after flashing off/being wiped off.
I have had less brake rotor "grumbles" since switching to isopropyl alcohol.
DougalStrachan
Likes Dirt
RE isopropyl Check your local Mitre 10 - mine stocks it in 1 & 5 liter bottles (Not that overpriced Diggers stuff) for about the same as that Sydney solvents per liter. Bit of a no brainer as far as I can see as it's in the realm of Metho at that point
Ackland
chats d'élevage
FWIW I think that when LTWOO and SENSAH make the jump to Wireless (as per wheeltop) and provide infinitely programmable shifter/der Combos, SRAM/SHIM will be in trouble for Ebike drivetrains
Freediver
I can go full Karen
I just did a bit of reading and apparently metho evaporates a bit quicker, it's pretty close in just about every way but because of the methanol in metho it's a bit more toxic.
I use industrial metho which doesn't have the bittering agent, that might be the difference.
Freediver
I can go full Karen
I'm not sure which is more hygroscopic but both being infinitely miscible I'd guess they'd be pretty similar.
The metho I get in a 20 litre drum is 95% eth 5%meth and doesn't leave streaks. I'd know if it did because I use it on my eye glasses and for window cleaning.