no. this does seem a bit far fetched when you say it out loud...Can you seriously envisage 20,000 Melburnians sacrificing a coffee?
You don't want my family to see me anymore do you?Well done Plankosaurus.
Possibly the shop is only open weekends, with volunteers, who’ve been vetted to confirm they know lefty loosey right tighty running the workshop?
You don't want my family to see me anymore do you?
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I figured that would be the case. Having another bike operation start up shop there might actually be a blessing in disguise. If they can bring in a big brand, you might not need to make you own money after all, they will actively want to pump the park up as much as possible.* food/drink is a flat no. there's a clause in the contract that states we wont compete, fair enough too
Are you trying to destroy threaded BB shells!??!?!Possibly the shop is only open weekends, with volunteers, who’ve been vetted to confirm they know lefty loosey right tighty running the workshop?
Oh I forgot the certified to use a big hammer course.......I figured that would be the case. Having another bike operation start up shop there might actually be a blessing in disguise. If they can bring in a big brand, you might not need to make you own money after all, they will actively want to pump the park up as much as possible.
An exercise that might challenge the committee is to go through some management consulting BS and figure out a program logic. To me that is the biggest gap in the whole thing. To be fair, it's a pretty big leap to start a commercial enterprise in a struggling industry (well the LBS were until covid anyway) with a lot of commercial restrictions and less than ideal conditions.
If the aim of the exercise is to make money, then there are probably a lot of other ways to do it. Start small and build up. When it's crowd source money, it's easy to gamble away. Imagine if LDTR through years of promotion and BBQs and fundraisers and merch sales managed to rack up $100k. Would the committee decide to put into a commercial venture like this? My guess would be no. Would individuals mortgage their house to fund this? Probably not, the unfortunate reality is that this venture is risky and just accepting crowd sourcing money does not mean you can/should risk it on something like this.
Personally I rekon the club could do a lot more promo work (if PV allowed it). Maybe have a van outside the park selling cokes or even a donation box (surely PV would allow that?). Maybe have a sticker drive - someone selling them as you leave the carpark high from the ride. I dunno, I feel like going to a shop is a massive step up.
Last note is do you actually have someone in mind to run the shop who has experience?
Are you trying to destroy threaded BB shells!??!?!
I know I said this earlier but getting the community around it will make it better and help it last. The concept of “bike shop that doesn’t sell bikes” is really hard to communicate.We're talking a similar premise, i cant see why it wouldn't work should we be able to get it off the ground. Agree that getting it off the ground is going to be harder than we initially thought, but i'm pretty confident that it'll work and benefit the MTB community if we get a solid start.
I do really like this idea. might be a bit tricky to run alongside rentals and make sure tools dont go walkabouts, but i generally agree very heartily with the concept. Will discuss with the others, you're right, its about community as much as fundraising and they dont have to be mutually exclusive...I know I said this earlier but getting the community around it will make it better and help it last. The concept of “bike shop that doesn’t sell bikes” is really hard to communicate.
Set it up like one of the community workshops/maker spaces with extra bench space/work stands and get people to become members (of LDTR which gets you access to the shop, or of the shop directly) to come and wrench their own bikes with/without guidance as desired. Run bike mechanics lessons for kids and newbies. Tee up a bike fitter to come in every Tuesday/Thursday night and do a fit appointment or two.
Etc etc. A bike shop that doesn’t sell bikes will not succeed. A community hub that brings people together and gets them psyched on bikes and converts them into club members who will show up for trail working bees will be more valuable than a shop that donates 100% of its meagre profits and is empty most of the time.
One word - calendars.I think to my days with the CFA.
Dad bods are all the rage right now.not so sure its the money spinner we need...
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Dad bods are all the rage right now.
Have you thought about going into radio?
Not without precedent though. Abbotsford Cycles under Richmond station is a bike shop that doesn't sell bikes, and has been around since forever. With a solid market focus, the model can work.I know I said this earlier but getting the community around it will make it better and help it last. The concept of “bike shop that doesn’t sell bikes” is really hard to communicate.
Set it up like one of the community workshops/maker spaces with extra bench space/work stands and get people to become members (of LDTR which gets you access to the shop, or of the shop directly) to come and wrench their own bikes with/without guidance as desired. Run bike mechanics lessons for kids and newbies. Tee up a bike fitter to come in every Tuesday/Thursday night and do a fit appointment or two.
Etc etc. A bike shop that doesn’t sell bikes will not succeed. A community hub that brings people together and gets them psyched on bikes and converts them into club members who will show up for trail working bees will be more valuable than a shop that donates 100% of its meagre profits and is empty most of the time.
You'll get your coffee, there's a cafe in the same building. Caffeinated brown liquid for everyone that needs it.Good luck with your venture, but the no coffee is a major problem... almost a show stopper.
The thing that Lysty really needs though, is some additional trails. The main loop should have the ABC logo etched into it, with interconnecting links added so you could mix up your standard loop ride. A trail should also be added from either East/West, the dairy or from the highest point of Middle that makes its way to the start of Aneurysm so that becomes another loop, and the start of Aneurysm should be linked into the Comm games climb for another loop. The place is so busy that I understand the one way rule, but without some alternative loops happening to allow mixing it up, even though it is my local, it has lost it for me.