"natural body building supplements" vs anabolics

mtb101

Likes Bikes and Dirt
do you do any cycling? running? don't you think your aim should be health and fitness, let your physique develop around the sports you do. gyms get pretty boring after a while.
 

safreek

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There is always WEIGHT GAIN 4000 :thumb::thumb:

[video=youtube;SrY2_4XoWno]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrY2_4XoWno[/video]
yeah, not so ripped though

:amen:

Most dudes on here are guilty of spending thousands to drop 500 grams off their bike and you want to add 10kg body weight ?? :boink:
well, I was thinking of buying a light bike to make up for it, should make me faster with the added muscle

Are you suggesting he suck roids?
but the blood and brown is not mah scene:behindsofa:
 

safreek

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In the immortal words of Jake the Muss:
yeah but I have boxed as well, size never really slowed me down

do you do any cycling? running? don't you think your aim should be health and fitness, let your physique develop around the sports you do. gyms get pretty boring after a while.
I only bike 2 or 3 times a week, probs about 6 or so hours. As much as some people get bored in the gym I don't, there is always a competition going on in my mind, there are a couple of real body builders at the gym that I compete against even if they don't know it. They would be probs about 20 or 30 kg heavier than me so my goal is to trounce them in the next 6 months or so strenghtwise, it would be nice to be closer to their bodyweight though.
My goal is to become a strength/size gainer trainer for older people, pretty hard to do if you don't have the bulk to be respected for the job.

Also as far as pastimes go it is certainly more healthy than what most of my friends do, also the grandson is rather surprised at what grandad is turning into:clap2:
 

safreek

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On a more seious note though, surely there are some bodybuilding mtbers out there who can tell me if they have had success with any legal supplements. D aspartic or any of those sort of things, maybe a basic program that you felt help get you over the plateau. If you don't want to get involved in this thread feel free to pm me, it seems that bodybuilding is sort of frowned upon on roto. I am not a professional cyclist ( not Cadell undercover ) so don't really feel adding muscular bulk will impact the fun of my riding
 

Mywifesirrational

I however am very normal. Trust me.
On a more seious note though, surely there are some bodybuilding mtbers out there who can tell me if they have had success with any legal supplements. D aspartic or any of those sort of things, maybe a basic program that you felt help get you over the plateau. If you don't want to get involved in this thread feel free to pm me, it seems that bodybuilding is sort of frowned upon on roto. I am not a professional cyclist ( not Cadell undercover ) so don't really feel adding muscular bulk will impact the fun of my riding
I am a recreational powerlifter - 110kg with a PhD in strength and condition / physiology, none of those supplements work, nothing works that's legal other than protein supplementation (only until you meet your daily requirements), creatine and caffeine (reduces perception of exertion = more reps). Everything else is marketing crap to steal your money, all the pre / post workout shit is also just that, shit. D aspartic does not work above any other amino acid, its rate limited, having more in your system above normal levels does nothing.

training studys
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844073

D aspartic is good if you are trying to get your rat to remember shit
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19890700

And as a bonus, exercising you rat with type 1 diabtetes is great for improving its erectile dysfunction
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21883945


Plateaus are normal, and programing can overcome this, but diet is also very important in a plateau. I am not a fan of body building, mostly brain damaged idiots, but there's a few smart ones here and there. I much prefer performance / strength based training over aesthetic training. But regardless, resistance training is very, very healthy for a person, the injury rate (if done correctly) is almost zero, the health benefits, particularly metabolically and joint are excellent, with the only negative being central arterial stiffness - which as a bonus is completely attenuated by aerobic activity such as cycling.
 
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I am a recreational powerlifter - 110kg with a PhD in strength and condition / physiology, none of those supplements work, nothing works that's legal other than protein supplementation (only until you meet your daily requirements), creatine and caffeine (reduces perception of exertion = more reps). Everything else is marketing crap to steal your money, all the pre / post workout shit is also just that, shit. D aspartic does not work above any other amino acid, its rate limited, having more in your system above normal levels does nothing.

training studys
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844073

D aspartic is good if you are trying to get your rat to remember shit
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19890700

And as a bonus, exercising you rat with type 1 diabtetes is great for improving its erectile dysfunction
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21883945


Plateaus are normal, and programing can overcome this, but diet is also very important in a plateau. I am not a fan of body building, mostly brain damaged idiots, but there's a few smart ones here and there. I much prefer performance / strength based training over aesthetic training. But regardless, resistance training is very, very healthy for a person, the injury rate (if done correctly) is almost zero, the health benefits, particularly metabolically and joint are excellent, with the only negative being central arterial stiffness - which as a bonus is completely attenuated by aerobic activity such as cycling.
Thanks for sharing that info, I often wonder about training and nutrition, your post answered some questions I had.
 

findbuddha

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Plateaus are normal, and programing can overcome this, but diet is also very important in a plateau. I am not a fan of body building, mostly brain damaged idiots, but there's a few smart ones here and there. I much prefer performance / strength based training over aesthetic training. But regardless, resistance training is very, very healthy for a person, the injury rate (if done correctly) is almost zero, the health benefits, particularly metabolically and joint are excellent, with the only negative being central arterial stiffness - which as a bonus is completely attenuated by aerobic activity such as cycling.
Thanks for sharing your expertise here! Trying to convince my patients of the benefits of resistance training is a source of daily frustration. :faint2:
 

safreek

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I am a recreational powerlifter - 110kg with a PhD in strength and condition / physiology, none of those supplements work, nothing works that's legal other than protein supplementation (only until you meet your daily requirements), creatine and caffeine (reduces perception of exertion = more reps). Everything else is marketing crap to steal your money, all the pre / post workout shit is also just that, shit. D aspartic does not work above any other amino acid, its rate limited, having more in your system above normal levels does nothing.

training studys
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25844073

D aspartic is good if you are trying to get your rat to remember shit
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19890700

And as a bonus, exercising you rat with type 1 diabtetes is great for improving its erectile dysfunction
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21883945


Plateaus are normal, and programing can overcome this, but diet is also very important in a plateau. I am not a fan of body building, mostly brain damaged idiots, but there's a few smart ones here and there. I much prefer performance / strength based training over aesthetic training. But regardless, resistance training is very, very healthy for a person, the injury rate (if done correctly) is almost zero, the health benefits, particularly metabolically and joint are excellent, with the only negative being central arterial stiffness - which as a bonus is completely attenuated by aerobic activity such as cycling.
cheers for that mate, thought they were just expensive crap. Ah well, I guess decisions must be made in the next couple of months.
By the way, if that's you in your avatar, well, looking good. That's the sort of build I am looking for, I mean to build myself into.
 

safreek

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If you think you will get that respect using steroids, think again.
It can be our little secret :kiss: just don't tell any one :gossip:.
but honestly, I don't think people would give a shit if you went on a 12 week cycle to build a large body and then stopped. I believe people see what they want to see and believe what they want to, most people assume a muscular (huge) bloke is on the gear regardless.
I already got cortisone injections to both shoulders, take voltaren 50s to get through work and workouts, painkillers after the workouts, without them I would be incapable of working out so not much natural about my workouts. the whole roid thing is a last option, still a long way from even considering them, but they are cheap
 

Mywifesirrational

I however am very normal. Trust me.
No problem fellas, I get asked this stuff every week during the teaching semester, the money is better spent on keeping the Mrs happy, a HRM or GPS, bike parts... or something that makes exercise more interesting so you do more of it. i wrote a post on here a while back regarding resistance training with a fair bit of detail.

On a side note, steroid use / abuse, it works amazingly well at building mass rapidly (still need some decent training) and helping lose excess weight, there is also very little in the way of side effects if taken sensibly for a short period of time, at least no side effects are noted in scientific studies. But, very importantly, these studies are managed very well and have excellent over site from Drs and pharmacists.

I would take steriods if it was prescribed by a sports based GP and supplied by a pharmacist, but there is no way I am buying some shit from the carpark at Dohertys, Spartans, Westgate leisure, not knowing what is in it and the exact dosage. The other issue steriods are extremely addictive, as not the drug, but the benefits you get from them, its a slippery slope.

I am not as big as that guy, but I once was dressed a as Nazi in a bondage store, whipping the arse of a professor strapped to a iron cross, for the small price of a PhD placement and scholarship, no regrets.
 

Mywifesirrational

I however am very normal. Trust me.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Definitely no pictures, the Mrs was 'somewhat' comfortable with what happened. Eagle leather was the location, guy behind the counter was probably wacking off while watching... I don't know.

not sure you want that Poodle - have met MWI - he is a big unit. I for one don't want to see it.
And I recall the slow part of your name, is somewhat misleading, above average or competent mick doesn't sound quite as funny, and you where hitting all the jumps :thumb:
 

slowmick

38-39"
Definitely no pictures, the Mrs was 'somewhat' comfortable with what happened. Eagle leather was the location, guy behind the counter was probably wacking off while watching... I don't know.

And I recall the slow part of your name, is somewhat misleading, above average or competent mick doesn't sound quite as funny, and you where hitting all the jumps :thumb:
Thank you sir but after 11 months off the bike renovating and hanging out with my new daughter I am now ample and slow, mick. Not long till a comeback though :becky:
 

pink poodle

気が狂っている男
not sure you want that Poodle - have met MWI - he is a big unit. I for one don't want to see it.
This just gets better!

One of my regular customers wants to be a power lifter...only he is about 5.7 feet tall and from a light weight family. He works hard at it and has some bulk but looks like he could've starred in the hobbit as one Bilbo's companions.

Definitely no pictures, the Mrs was 'somewhat' comfortable with what happened. Eagle leather was the location, guy behind the counter was probably wacking off while watching... I don't know.
I wore a gimp mask once in a porno store. We were looking for a birthday present and I got bored...seems to me that the universal thing for those kind of stores is that the dude behind the counter is always going to be wierd.
 
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