ah ok, I put the pics in the ditch to demonstrate how good the departure angle is. Its a rugged off-road rack so I not sure why you reacted the way you did about it being "off road".
Dont get me wrong, I really like the rack, I'm lacking full confidence in getting it to hold the bikes when offroad. So I've resorted to using other straps to ensure I dont get a bike falling out of the rack again.
Grip: thanks for the offer, I will call you tomorrow as I'd like to get it sorted, I have a huge array of bikes and getting the clamp low on frames is a problem. I was hoping to avoid dual hoops as its way more convienient with the taco...
Here is a pic of the configuration the day the last bike jumped out of the rack..
