New Bike Day Imminent - Release the Pinions

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

Currently doing my research for NBD, want to go gearbox this time around so looking at Nicolai ION G16 GPI and Zerode Taniwha. Does anyone else have suggestions for a 150-160mm trail bike with Pinion mount that I should be looking at?

ION G16 GPI - 2022, 4.849,00 €

ION G16 GPI - 2022 in ENDURO / ALL MOUNTAIN, FULL SUSPENSION, FRAMES

www.nicolai-bicycles.com

New Taniwha — Zerode Bikes

zerodebikes.com

 

[beeb]

There's the Instinctiv bikes, if you can get past that instinctive need to vomit any time you look at the thing or contemplate how cringeworthy the name is:

FRONTPAGE

Get a riding experience you never had before with our exclusive mountain bikes. Tons of grip, faster downhill sections then ever.

www.instinctiv.bike

(Though if you are going to buy one, please order a spare trigger shifter - I will buy it off you!)

 

[nzhumpy]

I have no skin in this game but...

I suppose it comes down to if you have a preference for carbon or metal, but I fully endorse this thread and look forward to the photos.

 

[beeb]

Also, feel free to e-mail Nicolai and ask them if they're going to make a Saturn 16 GPI. When I asked the response was underwhelming to say the least...

"We are working on something but this is not our top priority project. therefore i can not give you a date.

Maybe this fall, maybe next year, 2 years... we do not know"

(Philipp from Nicolai customer service)

 

[yuley95]

Currently doing my research for NBD, want to go gearbox this time around so looking at Nicolai ION G16 GPI and Zerode Taniwha. Does anyone else have suggestions for a 150-160mm trail bike with Pinion mount that I should be looking at?

ION G16 GPI - 2022, 4.849,00 €

ION G16 GPI - 2022 in ENDURO / ALL MOUNTAIN, FULL SUSPENSION, FRAMES

www.nicolai-bicycles.com

New Taniwha — Zerode Bikes

zerodebikes.com

Kavenz! https://kavenz.com/blog/gwagon

I’m on a VHP16 (sans gearbox) and I love it

 

[beeb]

Kavenz! https://kavenz.com/blog/gwagon

I’m on a VHP16 (sans gearbox) and I love it

I really hope they can adapt that design to accept a decent tensioner and a Gates Carbon Drive belt. The tensioner should be easy enough but getting clearance around the chainstay pivots will be tricky at a guess.

 

[wkkie]

Do you have a budget?

You could have a look at the local option, but it's very pricey! $9,000 frame only... The Trinity... https://www.trinitymtb.com/gravity

There's also a few other options popping up.

The Kavenz which looks like it's almost ready, but no belt drive... https://kavenz.com/blog/gwagon

Gamux Sego FR, again looks like it's coming soon...

Craft Bike Days 2022: Gamux Sego FR – Freeride-Fräse aus der Schweiz - MTB-News.de

Mit dem Gamux Sego FR stellen die Schweizer einen Freerider auf Plattform ihres Downhill-Bikes vor – wir haben einen Blick drauf geworfen!

www.mtb-news.de

That's all I can remember at the moment, but I think there's a few more...

 

[Mattyp]

With a name like Gwagon the right decision is pretty obvious.

 

[Oddjob]

With a name like Gwagon the right decision is pretty obvious.

Correct!

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[dancaseyimages]

You guys all have to much money. $9k for a frame?

 

[Jpez]

More travel than you’re after but Starling make a steel 170mm gearbox bike.
I think Marino do frames with a pinion mount too if you wanted to roll the dice.

 

[komdotkom]

I'd love a 140mm gearbox bike, like the Zerode but more climbing focussed.

 

[yuley95]

I really hope they can adapt that design to accept a decent tensioner and a Gates Carbon Drive belt. The tensioner should be easy enough but getting clearance around the chainstay pivots will be tricky at a guess.

This is a proto but they have a little guide taking the chain around the chainstay pivot.
http://instagr.am/p/Cs73mc8I7pZ/

 

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

There's the Instinctiv bikes, if you can get past that instinctive need to vomit any time you look at the thing or contemplate how cringeworthy the name is:

FRONTPAGE

Get a riding experience you never had before with our exclusive mountain bikes. Tons of grip, faster downhill sections then ever.

www.instinctiv.bike

(Though if you are going to buy one, please order a spare trigger shifter - I will buy it off you!)

I did see these on the Pinion site and promptly concluded that my gag reflex isn’t strong enough to handle that.

Kavenz! https://kavenz.com/blog/gwagon
I’m on a VHP16 (sans gearbox) and I love it

Cheers, I'll definitely take a look! Would prefer belt drive but a chain isn't a deal breaker. I've put plenty of kms on the fatbike which is still chain drive and the maintenance on that is tolerable.

Do you have a budget?

You could have a look at the local option, but it's very pricey! $9,000 frame only... The Trinity... https://www.trinitymtb.com/gravity

There's also a few other options popping up.

The Kavenz which looks like it's almost ready, but no belt drive... https://kavenz.com/blog/gwagon

Gamux Sego FR, again looks like it's coming soon...

Craft Bike Days 2022: Gamux Sego FR – Freeride-Fräse aus der Schweiz - MTB-News.de

Mit dem Gamux Sego FR stellen die Schweizer einen Freerider auf Plattform ihres Downhill-Bikes vor – wir haben einen Blick drauf geworfen!

www.mtb-news.de

That's all I can remember at the moment, but I think there's a few more...

No budget per se, I'd like to look at everything available and make financially unsound decisions. You've provided some good options.

More travel than you’re after but Starling make a steel 170mm gearbox bike.
I think Marino do frames with a pinion mount too if you wanted to roll the dice.

More travel is okay, steel might end up a bit chonky on the scales but I'll have a look. Not sure I'm willing to run the Marino et all gambit on this one.

 

[beeb]

This is a proto but they have a little guide taking the chain around the chainstay pivot.
http://instagr.am/p/Cs73mc8I7pZ/

I had seen that previously, but had missed the idler at the chainstay/seatstay pivot and thought it was just dragging over a wear-block. That'll work. Now I wonder if they'll make the gearbox kit compatible with the rumoured longer chainstays...

 

[Wake Jake]

I had seen that previously, but had missed the idler at the chainstay/seatstay pivot and thought it was just dragging over a wear-block. That'll work. Now I wonder if they'll make the gearbox kit compatible with the rumoured longer chainstays...

They quoted a few months ago around September for the gearbox and longer chainstay to be available to order at the same time.

 

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

Guide — Deviate Cycles | Scottish MTB Manufacturer

www.deviatecycles.com

Adding this to the list for further investigation.

 

[beeb]

Guide — Deviate Cycles | Scottish MTB Manufacturer

www.deviatecycles.com

Adding this to the list for further investigation.

It's discontinued isn't it?

 

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

It's discontinued isn't it?

Shame if it is, popped up in a search and I didn't look much past that. It would have been a worthy contender.

 

[shiny]

Shame if it is, popped up in a search and I didn't look much past that. It would have been a worthy contender.

Yup. No longer being made. Was their first bike and apparently not too bad.