Newly Released Bikes General

Tubbsy said:
There's a certain twisted logic to getting a 'forever bike' where you could try and make the maths stack up, with custom geo and the rest.

Ultimately I have some sort of crash or accidental incident with every bike, and I don't think I could bear to scratch up a Prova. Generally my philosophy is that it's a mountain bike and it should be dirty and have a few battle scars.

Maybe when I retire I'll get one and hit the rail trails.
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Yeah, given the relative geometry stability the last 4-5 model years and the increase in price of catalogue frames going boutique custom doesn't look as obscene as it did. Frames like Reeb and Nicolai are starting to look like pretty good value if you squint a bit.

Also you can polish scratches out of ti frames ;)
 
Tubbsy said:
There's a certain twisted logic to getting a 'forever bike' where you could try and make the maths stack up, with custom geo and the rest.

Ultimately I have some sort of crash or accidental incident with every bike, and I don't think I could bear to scratch up a Prova. Generally my philosophy is that it's a mountain bike and it should be dirty and have a few battle scars.

Maybe when I retire I'll get one and hit the rail trails.
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IMO, the only bikes that seem to fit the adjective 'forever' might be steel Llewellyn or Ti Baum road bikes with Dura Ace group and Lightweight Meilenstein carbon wheels (that cost more than most peoples' complete bikes) that only get ridden on sunny weekends for a cafe run with the other Mamils. And they are only 'forever' because they cost so $%#$% much that the owner doesn't want to take the financial hit by selling.

Even on gravel bikes the industry bastards are trying to push boost as an axle/frame/fork standard AFAIK, and then whatever else they have to create the desired planned obsolescence.

I like the idea of some sort of Titanium long term bike, but that also means I'm going to need to stock up on wheel parts & hubs of the given frame's frame/fork widths, spare axles, forks/shocks if running suspension (but more likely to be a rigid bike), consumables etc to resist the standards fuckery of bike industry as long as possible.
 
I'm really just calling it 'forever' in the sense that I can't stomach the $20k or so it would cost for that Prova build in the pics - I don't mind spending up on bikes, but it's a step too far for me.

Obviously there are lots of people spending near $20k on ebikes that will be the very opposite of 'forever'

@moorey, you really should pop in to air your feelings about these kinds of bikes haha
 
Tubbsy said:
I'm really just calling it 'forever' in the sense that I can't stomach the $20k or so it would cost for that Prova build in the pics - I don't mind spending up on bikes, but it's a step too far for me.

Obviously there are lots of people spending near $20k on ebikes that will be the very opposite of 'forever'

@moorey, you really should pop in to air your feelings about these kinds of bikes haha
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As long as moorey remembers that as a MTB club committee member/president or whatever he's up to, he's bound by the AusCycling code of conduct with regard to anything he says in person or posts/publishes on a forum. :)
 
ForkinGreat said:
Even on gravel bikes the industry bastards are trying to push boost as an axle/frame/fork standard AFAIK, and then whatever else they have to create the desired planned obsolescence.
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You're spot on with this and it's really interesting to watch it happen from an old & grouchy MTB'er perspective. Especially seeing a colleague I work with going through it, with him being a relatively recent entry into road for commuting 5 or 6 years ago, then gravel with a CX bike, then a gravel bike when the CX cracked.

Seeing gravel bikes all now on 12mm axles, but pushing "gravel/road boost" is hilarious. What a chunt move that is, by going "boost" but with smaller axle on the front than already exists. And then gravel suspension coming through in droves, droppers (which I'm totally on board with for sure)...

Next thing will be the brand new, never seen before, "No-Clip Pedals" (trademarking that here so you can all get stuffed), so you can use shoes that don't sound like tap dancing when you head to the pub... Ha, just watch them reverse the axle thread direction, just to be shit.

It'll trend towards dropbar XC mtb before too much longer I reckon!

My drop-bar mtb/gravelpacker is looking better and better every day. Give it another year and I'll be able to sell the aged frame & bitsa build for a tonne to new entries into the gravel scene!
 
Tubbsy said:
I'm not sure that AusCycling has the resources and reach to police every bit of banter across the internet...
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Perhaps not, yet any "banter" may be brought to their attention, if it's not banter, but may be in breach of AusCycling's code of conduct for all public officials at club level and higher.
 
Isildur said:
You're spot on with this and it's really interesting to watch it happen from an old & grouchy MTB'er perspective. Especially seeing a colleague I work with going through it, with him being a relatively recent entry into road for commuting 5 or 6 years ago, then gravel with a CX bike, then a gravel bike when the CX cracked.

Seeing gravel bikes all now on 12mm axles, but pushing "gravel/road boost" is hilarious. What a chunt move that is, by going "boost" but with smaller axle on the front than already exists. And then gravel suspension coming through in droves, droppers (which I'm totally on board with for sure)...

Next thing will be the brand new, never seen before, "No-Clip Pedals" (trademarking that here so you can all get stuffed), so you can use shoes that don't sound like tap dancing when you head to the pub... Ha, just watch them reverse the axle thread direction, just to be shit.

It'll trend towards dropbar XC mtb before too much longer I reckon!

My drop-bar mtb/gravelpacker is looking better and better every day. Give it another year and I'll be able to sell the aged frame & bitsa build for a tonne to new entries into the gravel scene!
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Do you reckon there is some way to stop this madness? Maybe we can convince the IDF that Specialized is a front for Hezbollah.
 
shiny said:
@komdotkom Atherton bikes don’t tickle your fancy? Or Devlin although these are steel not Ti.

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Atherton don't do anything that suits me, too Endurobro for old men who have to go to work on Monday. I don't want to lug an Enduro bike around on days with 1000m+ of climbing.
Devlin doesn't do it for me.
I looked at the SCOR bikes but they're just too ugly.
Propain Hugene looks ok but it's getting a bit old now, I'm not paying RRP for a 3 year old design.
 
komdotkom said:
Atherton don't do anything that suits me, too Endurobro for old men who have to go to work on Monday. I don't want to lug an Enduro bike around on days with 1000m+ of climbing.
Devlin doesn't do it for me.
I looked at the SCOR bikes but they're just too ugly.
Propain Hugene looks ok but it's getting a bit old now, I'm not paying RRP for a 3 year old design.
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Surely a new Hugene is due soon. Spindrift was just updated.
 
The new Ripley/Ripmo would be pretty dialled I reckon.

I'm super happy with my Smuggler as well; wouldn't mind upgrading to the more recent version to fix a few minor things, but it's a great trail bike.
 
Tubbsy said:
The new Ripley/Ripmo would be pretty dialled I reckon.

I'm super happy with my Smuggler as well; wouldn't mind upgrading to the more recent version to fix a few minor things, but it's a great trail bike.
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If I had the money I would Ripmo a Ripley (prefer colours of the Ripley). They look to be very sorted and good reviews.
 
DW link is awesome. In frame storage on the new one now as well. Very little to fault it I reckon.
 
Tubbsy said:
DW link is awesome. In frame storage on the new one now as well. Very little to fault it I reckon.
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People are complaining about weight but it’s a small increase over the older model. Ripley/Ripmo use the same frame and to change between just need the clevis and correct shock so you get a little extra versatility as well. High on my list if I win lotto. :p
 
komdotkom said:
You guys aren't helping me be financially responsible.
But then again, it's much cheaper than a Prova so perhaps I am?
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Spend up on a Prova or save a little buy a Ripley and have a MTB holiday?

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komdotkom said:
I wasn't aware there was a new Ripley, might have to drop into Summit for a squizz.
Reviews look good, I've never had a DW Link bike so I'm interested.
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Like @Tubbsy says...the dw link is awesome @komdotkom . I've had a few of them now for different styles of riding and love a bit of a fapp about how good it is. Supple, plush, snappy, responsive...somehow it does all the things I want from rear suspension.


Those clean straight lines on the main frame were a real kick in the dick, arriving just after I purchased another frame shaped like wavy gravy.
 
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