Newly Released eBikes and eComponents General
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Stredda
Runs naked through virgin scrub
Apart from doing something illegal, why would you buy one of this bikes with 6000 watts? Just buy a proper electric dirt bike like a Stark Varg. The shitty frame would be like a wet noodle with that much power going through it. I can't see the point of having pedals apart from being a dickhead and trying to pass it off as a pedal assist Ebike. You would have to be blind to think it was.
The type of person that buys this kind of bike are the same dickheads that bought pit bikes in the past and rode them through town, parks, playgrounds and MTB trails. If you are going to ride a dirt bike, be are real man and buy a proper one.
Mattyp
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downunderdallas
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beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
Wouldn't be much chop for MTB purposes, but honestly it looks like fun for goofing off and going for an explore in the forest type of ride or overnight bikecamping type thing.
downunderdallas
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The least powerful ebike ever?
Stredda
Runs naked through virgin scrub
Well it has more torque than than my Levo SL but I think it has less watts. I'd give it a go but most people just want mooooore powa, so I'm not sure if it will sell well.
bigdamo
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And there in lies the problem. Batteries at present weigh alot. I'l wait a couple years when battery technology has got the size and weight down.Plus I can't see the point in a slight gentle helping hand helping you up the hill. I may as well just ride my13kg trail bike.
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beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
I like the idea of the more restrained motor output, but an extra 1kg for almost double the battery capacity seems a pretty minor weight penalty for the category of bike it's on.
caad9
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I agree that restrained power output should be a higher consideration.
Say you have a fit group of friends that all ride together regularly, a new bloke wants to come along but he holds everyone up.
He loves the time with his mates but doesn’t want to suffer that much to get fitter and feels guilty holding his mates up.
Said person goes and purchases a full fat, ebike.
All of a sudden, he is riding everywhere on boost and his mates can no longer keep up with him.
First, one buys an e-bike, then two, then three.
Now that they are all on Ebikes, the status quo returns and the fit guys blow old mate out of the water again.
He’s not happy being left behind again, so he lashes out and buys an Amflow.
Now, the cycle repeats and he’s torching everyone and they all eventually go to an Amflow/the latest DJI bikes.
It's a cute story, but the only way to generate sales from here is more power, these hypothetical blokes gave up on the ride/handling aspect a long time ago.
beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
The one and only eBike I've (briefly) ridden had a Bosch Performance CX motor. It was soooo much more powerful than I expected or even really wanted. Something like that Orbea where it's (in theory) more like an augmented riding experience appeals to me, but the Bosch felt more like a shuttle service on the uphills and overkill on general trail riding. (Unless the assistance mode was dialed right back, and then the eeb-weight negatives outweighed the eeb-assisted positives). Riding a road climb on full power bouncing off the 25km/h limiter with very little effort was amusing, but on anything resembling a trail it was a bit too much for me (even on the second-highest setting). I think the power delivery and ride feel have the most opportunity for improvement over the next year or two while we all hope for solid-state batteries to become mainstream.
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Justin Fox
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To be fair, you can adjust every single power mode on an Amflow to your liking.
beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
At a glance it appears you can change the steepness of the ramp? (Except for maybe the shaded out green line that is capped at a lower output) Can it be made to follow custom curves for example, like strong initial assistance then fading off, or only giving it full berries if the rider's giving it full powah? Not having a go, just curious about how tunable it really is...
Justin Fox
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Check this video out:
I've not got any real experience on other e-MTB's but the way the Amflow delivers power is pretty amazing in that it delivers the power when you ask for it, not when you don't need it. Personally I ride in the default Auto mode on tarmac, and mostly Trail mode when on trails. I've never once felt the need to use the boost mode but I am tempted to play with setting up a mode to use the Motor Overrun feature for more technical uphills.
Jpez
Washed up zwifter
And that’s the rub. There’s no hypothetical about it.
downunderdallas
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Yeah I'm ok with my 60nm but I am being left for dead by the Amflows.