Newly Released Suspension & Components General

I recommend starting a new thread with list of bikes that use standard eyelet shock mounting.

I have a 2017 Specialized Enduro with a yolk mounted shock and the shock is lucky to last 100 hours before the damper need a full rebuild.

Another bike is a Polygon Mount Bromo which uses a trunnion mount. The shock loses air pressure after only a few hours of riding. I assume is is from the side loads to the air seals due to the flexing of the suspension under heavy loads. I have tried changing air seals but the fix is only temporary.

Needless to say, my next bike purchase must have standard eyelets.
Key takeaways are:

Yoke : run for the hills

Trunion: not ideal, but should be OK if the frame is stiff and has good tolerances

Eyelet: just send it

I don't think polygons are renowned to be stiff and well aligned which doesn't help
 
Fark!!! I don't think the suspension on my bike cost that much.




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Enve has their new wheels out with external nipples!. Looks like no rim only option and only their new hubs as a choice. Still pricey and only 5 year warranty. When most manufacturers are offering lifetime and a heap cheaper kinda wonder who will buy these. Guess the ol dentist joke goes here.

 
Enve has their new wheels out with external nipples!. Looks like no rim only option and only their new hubs as a choice. Still pricey and only 5 year warranty. When most manufacturers are offering lifetime and a heap cheaper kinda wonder who will buy these. Guess the ol dentist joke goes here.

Enve lost their status as the Holy Grail of carbon rims 5+ years ago. Too little, too late!
 
Enve has their new wheels out with external nipples!. Looks like no rim only option and only their new hubs as a choice. Still pricey and only 5 year warranty. When most manufacturers are offering lifetime and a heap cheaper kinda wonder who will buy these. Guess the ol dentist joke goes here.

Aren't almost all MTB spoke nipples external, or am I missing something here? 🤔
 
Aren't almost all MTB spoke nipples external, or am I missing something here? 🤔
Nah the Enve ones sit inside the rim cavity. They are really shit as you cannot true the wheels without removing the tyre and rim tape.

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Ah, Ok. I just thought it was just road stuff. I agree that is a shit design. What's the advantage, if any? Aesthetics?
The legit roadies will argue the 0.0001% better aero.

Enve reckon it improves spoke and nipple angle where it exits the rim. However, with DT Swiss Prohead, Sapim Polyax (and other brands' equivalents) pivoting nipple/washer designs, you can get the same effect.
 
The legit roadies will argue the 0.0001% better aero.

Enve reckon it improves spoke and nipple angle where it exits the rim. However, with DT Swiss Prohead, Sapim Polyax (and other brands' equivalents) pivoting nipple/washer designs, you can get the same effect.
What would Roadies know! 🤣
 
What @Stredda said their new rims are now external so no need to dump sealant, strip rim tape, get a special tool and tweak nipples.

Major pain in the ass. My Enve XC wheels that got promoted from MTB to CX/road duties were 28 spoke and very highly tensioned at a 130kgf if I remember correctly.

A broken spoke meant the wheel was now jammed on the chain stay and with internal nipples, there was no possibility of tweaking the opposing spokes to get home, it was a taxi job on at least 2 occasions.

I detensioned and spoke prepped those wheels to 110kgf and have not had an issue since, though they don't get ridden much either now.
 
Ah, Ok. I just thought it was just road stuff. I agree that is a shit design. What's the advantage, if any? Aesthetics?
Was originally to have a smaller hole through the rim. Enve don't drill their rims, the holes are moulded in, and the smaller hole makes for a stronger seat for the nipple.
 
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