droenn
Fat Man's XC President
Yeah he does say these are things to do on any bike, but modern geometry means you have to do it and you need to adjust your riding style as you cant get away with the old school way on a modern bike
Old school vs new school geometry / riding
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pink poodle
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New school...old school...all I know is I need more riding.
I thought the cornering part of the video was pretty stupid.. 1st method was how to corner when your just cruising along, 2nd was when you want to rail the corner as quick as possible.. What was the point of it? Sam Hill’s bike couldn’t corner pre 2016?
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How much of the geometry change was to make the bigger wheels perform like the 26" variety? Early 29ers I rode were twitchy and not planted, head angles and seat stays were played with to get better rideability. Slacker ha means more weight can come forward. Dropper posts give more freedom with arse positioning. So are we really talking about innovation or the cure?
HamboCairns
Thanks for all the bananas
The question is whether you can use the second method effectively on a steeper and shorter XC bike.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
Yes. You should corner like that on every bike on almost every corner if you want to go fast. Case in point, I'm on the older geometry, my mate pointed out how different our stance was in these shots as he's still not habitual about getting the outside foot down.
ashes_mtb
Has preferences
Your mate is smiling and doesn't have an attack face on either, which also affects speed in the corner.
Plus highpost
Scotty T
Walks the walk
I smile sometimes, but lowpost (actually medium post for mellow Stromlo downs) is now also habitual. So I'll advise to continue habit forming on the stance and seat, and keep smiling, I mean he literally can't wipe it off his face when he puts down a solid run now
pink poodle
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You sure can.. I believe it’s a technique called “cornering properly”..
I lean over my steep 430mm reach xc hardtail and shove it into corners just like my trail bike. It most certainly doesn’t feel as confidence inspiring as newer geo, but it works..
Chriso_29er
Likes Bikes and Dirt
I don't get why he would call it an old school riding style, it just looks like a style someone less confident might use.
I grew up riding bowls at the local skate park, staying centered on the bike is just something you had to do, this then carried over onto steep trail features, even on my 90's XC bike. Still had quick release seat, so down it went for the steep stuff.
I grew up riding bowls at the local skate park, staying centered on the bike is just something you had to do, this then carried over onto steep trail features, even on my 90's XC bike. Still had quick release seat, so down it went for the steep stuff.
pink poodle
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Because you need tension and drama.
According to old mate in the video the geo on your trance wouldn’t be considered “modern”.. I reckon your a fair chop better than that fella..
safreek
*******
Thaaat must be why I like older bikes, just like me
pink poodle
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Scotty T
Walks the walk
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AND fingerless gloves!
Scotty T
Walks the walk
Yeah some things take a while to learn. Full fingers are compulsory in BMX racing, my fingers could have been more messed up if I had fingerless when I put my hand in my other mate's wheel at high speed last year now that I think of it. Wedding ring still won't go on.