Online Stores List and Info

Discussion in 'Parts 'n Stuff' started by tkdbboy, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. tkdbboy

    tkdbboy Likes Dirt

    Hey guys,

    July 1st is creeping up and from then on, we will be charged GST on overseas purchases under $1000.
    I haven't read into this very thoroughly so I don't know how it'll exactly work and who will have to do what.
    One interesting point is that this is only applicable to overseas sellers who have more than $75k worth of sales to Australia.

    First of all, I'd like to say I'm all for supporting Aussie business's but when it comes to certain parts (*cough* SRAM), the price difference of LBS vs OS is just too much.

    Here's a list of all the OS online stores I have found some good deals on in the past:

    www.chainreactioncycles.com.au
    UK
    Free delivery @ $80
    365 Days allowable returns
    Return service through Aus Post @ $10
    NOT Geoblocked - Change your location to UK - Find your item - Add to wishlist - Change your location to Australia - Go to wishlist - Find your item - Add to cart - Checkout (Make sure you add this item last to your cart if you have anything else you wish to buy as adding an item will bump your Geoblocked item out)


    www.wiggle.com.au
    Owned by CRC
    Free Delivery @ $80
    365 Days returns


    www.bike-components.de/en/
    Germany
    Good delivery costs
    100 Days returns
    NOT Geoblocked


    http://bike-discount.de/
    Germany
    Good delivery costs
    30 Days returns
    Geoblocked


    https://www.bike24.com/
    Germany
    Good delivery costs
    Unsure about return policy
    Geoblocked


    https://www.hibike.com/
    Germany
    Good delivery costs
    Unsure about return policy
    NOT Geoblocked


    https://www.rosebikes.com/
    Germany
    Good delivery costs
    30 days returns
    NOT Geoblocked
    NOTE: VAT will be removed at the end of the cart process before payment. To calculate how much an item is without going through the whole process, just divide it by 1.19


    https://www.starbike.com
    Germany
    Good delivery costs
    Unsure about return policy
    NOT Geoblocked
    VAT removed when selecting delivery destination


    http://www.ubyk-pro.com
    UK
    Expensive Delivery
    30 Days returns
    NOT Geoblocked


    https://www.evanscycles.com/
    UK
    Good delivery costs
    90 Days returns
    Geoblocked


    http://www.tweekscycles.com/
    UK
    Good delivery costs
    365 Days returns
    NOT Geoblocked


    https://www.merlincycles.com/
    UK
    Free Shipping @ $85
    30 Days returns
    NOT Geoblocked


    http://www.planetx.co.uk/
    UK
    Scaled Shipping Costs
    28 Days returns
    NOT Geoblocked


    http://www.jensonusa.com
    USA
    Scaled Shipping Costs
    365 Days returns
    NOT Geoblocked


    http://www.bikeman.com/
    USA
    Pretty exxy shipping
    30 Days Returns
    NOT Geoblocked






    Aussie Shops:

    www.mountainbikesdirect.com.au
    Free Delivery @ $99
    60 Days returns


    www.tbe.com.au
    Free Delivery @ $60
    Unsure about return policy


    https://www.pushys.com.au
    Free Delivery @ $100
    30 Days returns


    https://www.torpedo7.com.au/
    Free Delivery @ $199
    90 Days returns


    https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/
    Free Delivery @ $50
    14 Days Returns


    https://www.bikebug.com/
    Free Delivery @ $99
    30 Days Returns


    http://www.clickbike.com.au/
    Owned by Dirt Works. Looks like a site for their clearance items.
    Free Delivery on some items
    Unsure about return policy


    If there's any sites you found bargains on that I've missed then I'll add them to the list.
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2017
  2. Shinigami

    Shinigami Likes Dirt

    i wouldnt hold your breath on the GST thing lasting through the budget, especially with the other flack they are taking and eBay saying they would geoblock aussies. people will just move to smaller stores that dont met the (iirc) ~$65k threshold.

    will see what its like after the first week of may
     
  3. Binaural

    Binaural Likes Bikes and Dirt

    Here's hoping, but the government has already taken the popularity hit for this stupid policy so I am not so confident they are going to have an outbreak of reason.
     
  4. link1896

    link1896 Eats Squid

    The proposed changes ( gst on low value goods) have not been passed by Parliament yet, though the ATO's website reads as it's law and will start on July 1 2017

    The bill before parliament.

    http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:"legislation/billhome/r5819"


    The ATO's info
    https://www.ato.gov.au/general/new-...ct-taxes/gst/gst-on-low-value-imported-goods/


    As for SRAM geoblocking, here's hoping Amazon's arrival changes things.

    A spot check showed Amazon, with shipping from the USA for a XX1 derailleur was cheaper then bike24.
     
  5. Calvin27

    Calvin27 Likes Bikes and Dirt

    I'll add a few of my faves:

    - cycling deal
    - bike bug
    - merlin cycles
    - onone/planetX
    - bikeman

    Also I wouldn't call jensonusa 'good' price on shipping. But hey thanks for putting it together, appreciated!
     
  6. ForkinGreat

    ForkinGreat Random Krishna

    Jenson USA IS geoblocked on certain brands. eg POC, and several others.
     
  7. Binaural

    Binaural Likes Bikes and Dirt

    The more I read about this proposed change, the dumber it sounds. They are literally relying on foreign companies to enforce Australian tax laws, and that there is no clear means to enforce the rules if they choose to break or ignore them. It even applies to resellers and middlemen of all sorts (eBay and freight forwarders) despite the fact they are only handle a fraction of the costs of the goods. Gods, is there anything this government can't screw up?
     
  8. Calvin27

    Calvin27 Likes Bikes and Dirt

    It seems the liberals are not so free-markety after all.
     
  9. Binaural

    Binaural Likes Bikes and Dirt

    Hey, taxation is not at all incompatible with the free market (even libertarians believe you need a government paid for by taxes, if only to enforce property laws). But this is just a confusing mess, and there doesn't even appear to be any modelling of the extra tax revenue they expect to extract. They're just going to piss off a bunch of people to no clear purpose.
     
  10. tkdbboy

    tkdbboy Likes Dirt

    Thanks! Added.
    Yeah you're right ... Jenson shipping is relative to the item whereas most of the German ones are a flat fee of 25 euro regardless the size of the component. Different rules for complete bikes

    Ah gotcha, I was only testing SRAM. I can break down each site to what's GeoBlocked if anyone has a list of commonly GeoBlocked items
     
  11. Simon Say

    Simon Say Squid

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...gvorgv. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  12. Nambra

    Nambra Likes Dirt

    Things like helmets might not meet Australian Standards, so can't be sold here.

    Yeah, I read about this recently; they will get the forwarding companies as well. I agree though, it's madness to think that it will work like the Government thinks it will. The cost to administer it will probably outweigh the returns. At the end of the day, if they somehow get it to fly, it still only adds 10% to the cost of purchase which is still going to cheaper than local prices, so not such a big deal. And if it does level the playing field as the legislation is meant to do, then that's good for our local online and bricks and mortar retailers.

    There doesn't seem to be any mention about lowering the customs duty threshold below $1,000 though, so all purchases post July will attract GST only (assuming the vendor plays ball with the Govt.), but anything over $1,000 gets hit with duty and other customs fees and charges as it does now.

    Back on topic - can anyone confirm whether any of those EU online shops charge extra for different payment types? I know that r2-bike.de charges an extra 2% on your order if you pay using PayPal or a credit card, but not if you do a direct bank deposit (and this is not disclosed until you're about to pay for your order). Do any of the others do similar? Also, some charge an additional amount for 'bulky goods' like wheels, and also based on the total value of the purchase, to cover additional shipping insurance costs ie. bike-components.de, r2-bike.de charge another 10 Euro if the order is over 600 Euro. These 'hidden' costs can bump up the overall cost of purchase, and if the amount you end up paying exceeds AUD$1000 then customs are likely to come looking for you.
     
  13. pink poodle

    pink poodle Clinically Inane

    They still ship them here, just not every brand. Geoblocking has been huge in America for a lot longer than anywhere else.

    Seems the entire capitalist free market system we subscribe to as a nation isn't about a free market, just about profit protection.
     
  14. ctguru

    ctguru Likes Bikes and Dirt

    Did you try checking out via their Amazon option to see if they still added the extra charges?


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  15. Nambra

    Nambra Likes Dirt

    No I didn't, I don't have an Amazon account or whatever you need to sign up to. I did another check last night though, and it looks like bike-components and bike24 don't charge extra.
     

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