Online Stores List and Info

tkdbboy

Likes Dirt
Hey guys,

July 1st is creeping up and from then on, we will be charged GST on overseas purchases under $1000.
I haven't read into this very thoroughly so I don't know how it'll exactly work and who will have to do what.
One interesting point is that this is only applicable to overseas sellers who have more than $75k worth of sales to Australia.

First of all, I'd like to say I'm all for supporting Aussie business's but when it comes to certain parts (*cough* SRAM), the price difference of LBS vs OS is just too much.

Here's a list of all the OS online stores I have found some good deals on in the past:

www.chainreactioncycles.com.au
UK
Free delivery @ $80
365 Days allowable returns
Return service through Aus Post @ $10
NOT Geoblocked
- Change your location to UK - Find your item - Add to wishlist - Change your location to Australia - Go to wishlist - Find your item - Add to cart - Checkout (Make sure you add this item last to your cart if you have anything else you wish to buy as adding an item will bump your Geoblocked item out)


www.wiggle.com.au
Owned by CRC
Free Delivery @ $80
365 Days returns


www.bike-components.de/en/
Germany
Good delivery costs
100 Days returns
Geoblocked


http://bike-discount.de/
Germany
Good delivery costs
30 Days returns
Geoblocked


https://www.bike24.com/
Germany
Good delivery costs
Unsure about return policy
Geoblocked


https://www.hibike.com/
Germany
Good delivery costs
Unsure about return policy
Usually has the cheapest parts and can get old service parts
NOT Geoblocked


https://www.rosebikes.com/
Germany
Good delivery costs
30 days returns
NOT Geoblocked
NOTE: VAT will be removed at the end of the cart process before payment. To calculate how much an item is without going through the whole process, just divide it by 1.19



https://www.starbike.com
Germany
Good delivery costs
Unsure about return policy
NOT Geoblocked
VAT removed when selecting delivery destination



http://www.ubyk-pro.com
UK
Expensive Delivery
30 Days returns
NOT Geoblocked


https://www.evanscycles.com/
UK
Good delivery costs
90 Days returns
Geoblocked


http://www.tweekscycles.com/
UK
Good delivery costs
365 Days returns
NOT Geoblocked


https://www.merlincycles.com/
UK
Free Shipping @ $85
30 Days returns
NOT Geoblocked


http://www.planetx.co.uk/
UK
Scaled Shipping Costs
28 Days returns
NOT Geoblocked


http://www.jensonusa.com
USA
Scaled Shipping Costs
365 Days returns
NOT Geoblocked


http://www.bikeman.com/
USA
Pretty exxy shipping
30 Days Returns
NOT Geoblocked






Aussie Shops:

www.mountainbikesdirect.com.au
Free Delivery @ $99
60 Days returns


www.tbe.com.au
Free Delivery @ $60
Unsure about return policy


https://www.pushys.com.au
Free Delivery @ $100
30 Days returns


https://www.torpedo7.com.au/
Free Delivery @ $199
90 Days returns


https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/
Free Delivery @ $50
14 Days Returns


https://www.bikebug.com/
Free Delivery @ $99
30 Days Returns


http://www.clickbike.com.au/
Owned by Dirt Works. Looks like a site for their clearance items.
Free Delivery on some items
Unsure about return policy


If there's any sites you found bargains on that I've missed then I'll add them to the list.
 
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Shinigami

Likes Dirt
i wouldnt hold your breath on the GST thing lasting through the budget, especially with the other flack they are taking and eBay saying they would geoblock aussies. people will just move to smaller stores that dont met the (iirc) ~$65k threshold.

will see what its like after the first week of may
 

Binaural

Eats Squid
i wouldnt hold your breath on the GST thing lasting through the budget, especially with the other flack they are taking and eBay saying they would geoblock aussies. people will just move to smaller stores that dont met the (iirc) ~$65k threshold.

will see what its like after the first week of may
Here's hoping, but the government has already taken the popularity hit for this stupid policy so I am not so confident they are going to have an outbreak of reason.
 

link1896

Mr Greenfield
The proposed changes ( gst on low value goods) have not been passed by Parliament yet, though the ATO's website reads as it's law and will start on July 1 2017

The bill before parliament.

http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:"legislation/billhome/r5819"


The ATO's info
https://www.ato.gov.au/general/new-...ct-taxes/gst/gst-on-low-value-imported-goods/


As for SRAM geoblocking, here's hoping Amazon's arrival changes things.

A spot check showed Amazon, with shipping from the USA for a XX1 derailleur was cheaper then bike24.
 

Calvin27

Eats Squid
I'll add a few of my faves:

- cycling deal
- bike bug
- merlin cycles
- onone/planetX
- bikeman

Also I wouldn't call jensonusa 'good' price on shipping. But hey thanks for putting it together, appreciated!
 

Binaural

Eats Squid
The proposed changes ( gst on low value goods) have not been passed by Parliament yet, though the ATO's website reads as it's law and will start on July 1 2017
http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:"legislation/billhome/r5819"
The more I read about this proposed change, the dumber it sounds. They are literally relying on foreign companies to enforce Australian tax laws, and that there is no clear means to enforce the rules if they choose to break or ignore them. It even applies to resellers and middlemen of all sorts (eBay and freight forwarders) despite the fact they are only handle a fraction of the costs of the goods. Gods, is there anything this government can't screw up?
 

Binaural

Eats Squid
It seems the liberals are not so free-markety after all.
Hey, taxation is not at all incompatible with the free market (even libertarians believe you need a government paid for by taxes, if only to enforce property laws). But this is just a confusing mess, and there doesn't even appear to be any modelling of the extra tax revenue they expect to extract. They're just going to piss off a bunch of people to no clear purpose.
 

tkdbboy

Likes Dirt
I'll add a few of my faves:

- cycling deal
- bike bug
- merlin cycles
- onone/planetX
- bikeman

Also I wouldn't call jensonusa 'good' price on shipping. But hey thanks for putting it together, appreciated!
Thanks! Added.
Yeah you're right ... Jenson shipping is relative to the item whereas most of the German ones are a flat fee of 25 euro regardless the size of the component. Different rules for complete bikes

Jenson USA IS geoblocked on certain brands. eg POC, and several others.
Ah gotcha, I was only testing SRAM. I can break down each site to what's GeoBlocked if anyone has a list of commonly GeoBlocked items
 
The more I read about this proposed change, the dumber it sounds. They are literally relying on foreign companies to enforce Australian tax laws, and that there is no clear means to enforce the rules if they choose to break or ignore them. It even applies to resellers and middlemen of all sorts (eBay and freight forwarders) despite the fact they are only handle a fraction of the costs of the goods. Gods, is there anything this government can't screw up?
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Nambra

Definitely should have gone to specsavers
Jenson USA IS geoblocked on certain brands. eg POC, and several others.
Things like helmets might not meet Australian Standards, so can't be sold here.

The more I read about this proposed change, the dumber it sounds. They are literally relying on foreign companies to enforce Australian tax laws, and that there is no clear means to enforce the rules if they choose to break or ignore them. It even applies to resellers and middlemen of all sorts (eBay and freight forwarders) despite the fact they are only handle a fraction of the costs of the goods. Gods, is there anything this government can't screw up?
Yeah, I read about this recently; they will get the forwarding companies as well. I agree though, it's madness to think that it will work like the Government thinks it will. The cost to administer it will probably outweigh the returns. At the end of the day, if they somehow get it to fly, it still only adds 10% to the cost of purchase which is still going to cheaper than local prices, so not such a big deal. And if it does level the playing field as the legislation is meant to do, then that's good for our local online and bricks and mortar retailers.

There doesn't seem to be any mention about lowering the customs duty threshold below $1,000 though, so all purchases post July will attract GST only (assuming the vendor plays ball with the Govt.), but anything over $1,000 gets hit with duty and other customs fees and charges as it does now.

Back on topic - can anyone confirm whether any of those EU online shops charge extra for different payment types? I know that r2-bike.de charges an extra 2% on your order if you pay using PayPal or a credit card, but not if you do a direct bank deposit (and this is not disclosed until you're about to pay for your order). Do any of the others do similar? Also, some charge an additional amount for 'bulky goods' like wheels, and also based on the total value of the purchase, to cover additional shipping insurance costs ie. bike-components.de, r2-bike.de charge another 10 Euro if the order is over 600 Euro. These 'hidden' costs can bump up the overall cost of purchase, and if the amount you end up paying exceeds AUD$1000 then customs are likely to come looking for you.
 

pink poodle

気が狂っている男
Things like helmets might not meet Australian Standards, so can't be sold here.
They still ship them here, just not every brand. Geoblocking has been huge in America for a lot longer than anywhere else.

Seems the entire capitalist free market system we subscribe to as a nation isn't about a free market, just about profit protection.
 

ctguru

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Things like helmets might not meet Australian Standards, so can't be sold here.



Yeah, I read about this recently; they will get the forwarding companies as well. I agree though, it's madness to think that it will work like the Government thinks it will. The cost to administer it will probably outweigh the returns. At the end of the day, if they somehow get it to fly, it still only adds 10% to the cost of purchase which is still going to cheaper than local prices, so not such a big deal. And if it does level the playing field as the legislation is meant to do, then that's good for our local online and bricks and mortar retailers.

There doesn't seem to be any mention about lowering the customs duty threshold below $1,000 though, so all purchases post July will attract GST only (assuming the vendor plays ball with the Govt.), but anything over $1,000 gets hit with duty and other customs fees and charges as it does now.

Back on topic - can anyone confirm whether any of those EU online shops charge extra for different payment types? I know that r2-bike.de charges an extra 2% on your order if you pay using PayPal or a credit card, but not if you do a direct bank deposit (and this is not disclosed until you're about to pay for your order). Do any of the others do similar? Also, some charge an additional amount for 'bulky goods' like wheels, and also based on the total value of the purchase, to cover additional shipping insurance costs ie. bike-components.de, r2-bike.de charge another 10 Euro if the order is over 600 Euro. These 'hidden' costs can bump up the overall cost of purchase, and if the amount you end up paying exceeds AUD$1000 then customs are likely to come looking for you.
Did you try checking out via their Amazon option to see if they still added the extra charges?


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Nambra

Definitely should have gone to specsavers
Did you try checking out via their Amazon option to see if they still added the extra charges?
No I didn't, I don't have an Amazon account or whatever you need to sign up to. I did another check last night though, and it looks like bike-components and bike24 don't charge extra.
 

safreek

*******
So. I.don't keep up with tax laws, did the whole under 1000 gst thingy pass or did they wake up to themselves. Fuck you Jerry/Gerry Harvey
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sane

Likes Bikes and Dirt
So, one of the biggest retailers in the world had this to say today about our Govs new protection racket, while announcing they would simply stop shipping to Au from July.

'I think it's fair enough that Australian consumers pay GST on items they might buy, but asking international corporations to collect that for you is quite another matter'

Let's hope Amazon's protest carries enough clout to change this brain fart of an idea.
 

slider_phil

Likes Bikes and Dirt
So, one of the biggest retailers in the world had this to say today about our Govs new protection racket, while announcing they would simply stop shipping to Au from July.

'I think it's fair enough that Australian consumers pay GST on items they might buy, but asking international corporations to collect that for you is quite another matter'

Let's hope Amazon's protest carries enough clout to change this brain fart of an idea.
Gave us a $20 buck voucher for compensation though
 
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