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redbruce

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Well, we went test driving and drove two Subaru WRX's and a Maxda 3 MPS.

We bought the MPS. Its a mint late 2011 model in pearl white with 14,600 km on the clock. Came with cargo mat, MPS floor mats, dark tints and that thin transparent film to protect against stone chips. Leather, sat nav, cruise control, dual zone climate control and Bose audio.

Went to the next dealer where we found the MPS. Test drove it for an hour. Was easy to drive, 6 speed gearbox felt better than the WRX's 5 speed, easy light clutch. Felt pretty solid with no rattles or noises. I provoked the infamous torque steer a few times, and to be honest, its only really an issue when you are really up it. Around town its very docile and drives probably just like any other Mazda 3. When its on boost that's a completely different story. Power delivery is pretty savage but that's what makes it fun I reckon. It felt slower than the WRX (which it is anyway) but is sufficient for a daily commuter. The wife had no issues with it. It did surprise her how the power delivery comes on strong when on boost but she said 'ah as long as I hang onto the steering wheel I should be right'.
I have a couple of mates with these (one had WRX previously and felt it was inferior in everything (including reliability) but performance).

They respond exceptionally well to a suspension upgrade. One of my mates had Bilsteins and slightly stiffer springs (Centreline in Melbourne), actually improves the ride and traction, helps tame the torque steer (to a degree) as well.

http://www.racingbeat.com/Mazda/Mazda-3.html?id=xNz8aywI
 
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allstar

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Is that a E28 535i? Looks like a sweet project, what condition is she in?
yah e28 535 with a re-built motor... interior isn't much chop but the exterior is sweet. I only bought it for the engine which is going into the e30 as soon as i have time to get around to it :p
 

1307

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yah e28 535 with a re-built motor... interior isn't much chop but the exterior is sweet. I only bought it for the engine which is going into the e30 as soon as i have time to get around to it :p
Sounds like it'll come out sweet. I've no real knowledge about engine swaps so excuse my ignorance, but I'm curious about some things:
I'm guessing the 3.5 is gonna be quite a bit bigger than what was in the E30 (2.0 or 2.5 I'm guessing?) does it have any issues fitting?
And how does the stock trans hold up with such an increase in power?

Edit - Also, why did you choose a M30 (?) engine over like the M50/2/?
 
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allstar

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umm not a huge amount of work to fit the bigger 3.5lt in. Can use stock e34 engine mounts, modified tranny mount and the wiring loom is pretty much a plug and play affair... just need to lengthen afew wires here and there to account for the longer motor, you cant run a mechanical fan either just a puller infront of the radiator but that works fine.

Stock e30 trans wont fit onto an m30 without a bellhousing adapter so i'll be using an e34 or e28 3.5lt 5speed. In saying that tho the stock e30 5speed can have 600hp+ through it no worries, they really are bullet proof.

Didnt go the m50/2 route because
*they cost alot more to buy
*much more complicated to fit
*more complicated engine so more to go wrong (they arent as strong as an m30)
*2.5 m50 = 189hp
2.8 m52 = 190hp
3.5 m30 = 210hp

just a better platform to start with, it weighs the same as the m50/2's aswell
 

1307

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umm not a huge amount of work to fit the bigger 3.5lt in. Can use stock e34 engine mounts, modified tranny mount and the wiring loom is pretty much a plug and play affair... just need to lengthen afew wires here and there to account for the longer motor, you cant run a mechanical fan either just a puller infront of the radiator but that works fine.

Stock e30 trans wont fit onto an m30 without a bellhousing adapter so i'll be using an e34 or e28 3.5lt 5speed. In saying that tho the stock e30 5speed can have 600hp+ through it no worries, they really are bullet proof.

Didnt go the m50/2 route because
*they cost alot more to buy
*much more complicated to fit
*more complicated engine so more to go wrong (they arent as strong as an m30)
*2.5 m50 = 189hp
2.8 m52 = 190hp
3.5 m30 = 210hp

just a better platform to start with, it weighs the same as the m50/2's aswell
Thanks for the reply, it's always so interesting learning about these things.
Interesting about the gearbox though, will a bellhousing adapter be more expensive than buying a whole new gearbox (or just too hard to find)?
 

allstar

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Thanks for the reply, it's always so interesting learning about these things.
Interesting about the gearbox though, will a bellhousing adapter be more expensive than buying a whole new gearbox (or just too hard to find)?
a whole gearbox out of an e28 (which fits the m30 and fits in the e30 trans tunnel) is only $500 and a bell housing adapter would have to be custom made = $$$$

basically m30,m10 share the same bell housing
m20,m50,m52,s50,s52,m42 share the same bell housing
(theres more thats just the common ones)

all engines and gearbox combos can pretty much fit in any BMW chassis without too much work (there are exceptions ofcourse) so its just easiest to get an engine and gearbox that fit together and then make that fit the car.
 

Xavo.au

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So the TV/CD player is rooted - radio is now working with a change of fuse. Can someone suggest a good cheap CD player that has AUX in so I can play my ipod. Even just a half decent brand ~$90-$100. Going to go down to Autopro and buy one in just a minute and need to know what to look for.

Edit- ended up with a cheap $85 one from Autopro. It's being fitted now.
 
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1307

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a whole gearbox out of an e28 (which fits the m30 and fits in the e30 trans tunnel) is only $500 and a bell housing adapter would have to be custom made = $$$$

basically m30,m10 share the same bell housing
m20,m50,m52,s50,s52,m42 share the same bell housing
(theres more thats just the common ones)

all engines and gearbox combos can pretty much fit in any BMW chassis without too much work (there are exceptions ofcourse) so its just easiest to get an engine and gearbox that fit together and then make that fit the car.
Ahhh yeah, that makes sense.
 

Dougy

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He's right. I had an AE86, rust-free (had it all cut out) with 150 000km. Sold it in 2000 for $3000 and it took AGES to sell.
Here in Japan it's getting hard to pick up and AE86 for less than AU$3000!! Even at the auctions. They are still incredibly popular and when you do find a cheap one there is a reason. It's either full of rust or been flogged to death as a drift pig. Bog standard clean ones are usually around $5000. Thanks to Initial D people over here know what they have and want their $$$.

I do think though that $5k for a 4AC one is a bit high. It'd want to be very clean.
 

Dougy

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Well, we went test driving and drove two Subaru WRX's and a Maxda 3 MPS.

We bought the MPS. Its a mint late 2011 model in pearl white with 14,600 km on the clock. Came with cargo mat, MPS floor mats, dark tints and that thin transparent film to protect against stone chips. Leather, sat nav, cruise control, dual zone climate control and Bose audio.

We went to the Subaru dealer at first to check out a 2010 and 2012 WRX hatch. They wouldn't let us test drive what we came to see with some idiotic excuse of not being allowed to put km's on the cars for sale, instead steering us towards a new demo sedan. The 2012 hatch had been towed to a shopping centre to be put on display. Ok we will test drive the sedan to get a sense of what it was like. I thought it was ok. Was a few rattles in the interior which I could have lived with. The missus hated it due to its larger proportions. She didn't like the clutch and gearbox either. I didn't mind it as its something you can get used to in 5 minutes.

Got back to the showroom and the wife told the salesman she hated the sedan and only wants to look at hatches, and what do you know, all of a sudden we can drive them now. They made us wait around for bloody ages and in the meantime one of the dealers came over to spruik the benefits of Subaru financing and paint protection. Sent him on his way. Got into the 2010 hatch (had around 60,000km on it) and it was a bit of a let down. Easy to drive and the performance great, but the creaks, rattles and groans wasn't really something I was expecting. Sort of felt like I was in my old Commonwhore. Not quite as bad but not far from it. Nasty cheap interior and really uncomfortable seats. This one had the premium pack too.

I know that when it comes to these cars, the focus is on the performance and drivetrain, but it was fairly poverty pack inside. They would not budge much on the price of the 2012 hatch (circa $40k) only coming down around $500 if we were prepared to buy that day. The trade in was only $1500. So I was looking at around $38,000 change over.

Went to the next dealer where we found the MPS. Test drove it for an hour. Was easy to drive, 6 speed gearbox felt better than the WRX's 5 speed, easy light clutch. Felt pretty solid with no rattles or noises. I provoked the infamous torque steer a few times, and to be honest, its only really an issue when you are really up it. Around town its very docile and drives probably just like any other Mazda 3. When its on boost that's a completely different story. Power delivery is pretty savage but that's what makes it fun I reckon. It felt slower than the WRX (which it is anyway) but is sufficient for a daily commuter. The wife had no issues with it. It did surprise her how the power delivery comes on strong when on boost but she said 'ah as long as I hang onto the steering wheel I should be right'.

Overall she liked it better than the WRX, she likes its split personality which surprised me. I like it too but wasn't fussed either way. The MPS is certainly a nicer place to sit in than the WRX and with both cars I won't be driving them to their limits.

We worked out a change over price of just under $30k with $3500 trade in.

Pick it up on Saturday. Already looking on line for matt black wheels haha.
Glad you found something you liked. Surprised your Mrs liked the MPS. I've never really been one for FF cars but I hope it works out for you.

Work Meister M1R in Bronze are my favourite wheels at the moment.
 
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MasterOfReality

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Glad you found something you liked. Surprised your Mrs liked the MPS. I've never really been one for FF cars but I hope it works out for you.

Work Meister M1R in Bronze are my favourite wheels at the moment.
She likes the interior, half decent boot space, gearbox and clutch action.

Looking at a set of Oz Racing Alleggerita HLT wheels in black from Tirerack. Them and a set of decent tyres should be under $3k at my door.
 

Dirt Devil

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Any recommendations for insurance companies for modified cars?

I'm buying a turbo motor for my old Volvo and was thinking Shannons but haven't really called around yet.
 

Xavo.au

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I literally just got 3rd Party with RACQ a couple of hours ago. I haven't had to claim, nor had claims against me - but the lady I spoke to was nice enough on the phone.

Crap, just reminded me I need to ring up with my bank details. Whoopsie.
 

Cjsxrt

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I'm with suncorp got 408rwhp ute and they covered my tools in the back of the ute for work pretty easy to talk to and didn't care on the modifications
 

wespelarno

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Any recommendations for insurance companies for modified cars?

I'm buying a turbo motor for my old Volvo and was thinking Shannons but haven't really called around yet.
Shannons have been awesome by me so far. They were the only place that would insure a 21 year old to drive a '67 Camaro. Agreed value, reasonably cost, really low excess, choice of repairer and in the event of a write off you get salvage on the vehicle. They are fine with modifications as long as you tell them-the mod/aftermarket list on my car is close to a page long. Overall very happy.

When some idiot reversed into me last year they were very prompt and helpful. They even called up to make sure the repair was going smoothly.
 

Plow King

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I was with AAMI and were reasonably priced. Then for whatever reason they decided to put up ky premium $800!!!!!!! Extra a year whilst taking off 4k off the agreed value price. I told them to stick it and switched to RACV now im paying 1000 $ less with a lower excess.

$1000 full comp. 23 year old in an sti. Pretty happy with that.
 

Futile

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Im with AAMI, 19, have a first generation MR2, $1178 for full comp including all modifications...
 

Aussie_Ryder

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I was with AAMI and were reasonably priced. Then for whatever reason they decided to put up ky premium $800!!!!!!! Extra a year whilst taking off 4k off the agreed value price. I told them to stick it and switched to RACV now im paying 1000 $ less with a lower excess.

$1000 full comp. 23 year old in an sti. Pretty happy with that.
Good grief that is a good price. I was 23 in an FPV Super Pursuit with no modifications that they knew about and my insurance was $2890 + an excess of $2500. That was with the RACV though.

Having said that it was 4 years ago.

p.s. I am now 27 and paying over $2000 on my 2011 SR5 dual cab hilux. Does this sound like the RACV is giving me a prostate exam using a baseball bat?

p.p.s I have never had an accident or made a cliam and never had a speeding fine or drink driving.....
 
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