Project Car / Motorbike thread. Let's see 'em.

Dales Cannon said:
You know this is just marketing bullshit don't you?

There is a much later interview with one of those two and the former head of engine development. They said the design imprimatur was for an all singing all dancing V12 to take over from the the straight six. DOHC, 4 valve, hemisphere combustion chambers and an 8,000 rpm limit to slot into the XJR12 to obliterate the opposition at LeMans and Spa. Problems with the design and budget constraints hampered their efforts and then Jag management changed it to a smooooooooooth V12 and the changes were wrought. The 6, arguably in 3.8L size is a stonking great engine.
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I always assumed that if you wanted V12 that actually works go Mercedes. Everything else is just overwrought, fragile misery (and I say this as my inner child screams in fury that I'm denigrating the mighty BMW 850CSi).

Anyway, as long as we're celebrating expensive restomods of 1970s crap, can I have one of these please:

 
Asininedrivel said:
I always assumed that if you wanted V12 that actually works go Mercedes. Everything else is just overwrought, fragile misery (and I say this as my inner child screams in fury that I'm denigrating the mighty BMW 850CSi).

Anyway, as long as we're celebrating expensive restomods of 1970s crap, can I have one of these please:

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Ferrari might have done the odd V12 including one with 180 degrees between banks that wasn't a boxer. I like the Lexus V10 from modern engines.

That Porker V8 wasn't that great though.
 
Oddjob said:
It's a pity they strapped such a POS single clutch automated gearbox to it though.

The ZF 6HP and the early DSGs were already available at the time.
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Yeah, weird given the timeframe they didn't just drop the DSG in that was doing service in the Merc SLS and Ferrari 458, although perhaps Toyota just wanted to keep it all in house, or had had so many budget blow outs with the project already they just wanted to finish it asap.
Dales Cannon said:
Ferrari might have done the odd V12 including one with 180 degrees between banks that wasn't a boxer.
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Yeah but aren't all Ferrari V12s total money pits to keep going with crap service intervals? Or are their some "lower maintenance" ones like the post 360 V8 Ferraris?
 
Asininedrivel said:
Yeah, weird given the timeframe they didn't just drop the DSG in that was doing service in the Merc SLS and Ferrari 458, although perhaps Toyota just wanted to keep it all in house, or had had so many budget blow outs with the project already they just wanted to finish it asap.

Yeah but aren't all Ferrari V12s total money pits to keep going with crap service intervals? Or are their some "lower maintenance" ones like the post 360 V8 Ferraris?
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I think they are like mountain bikes. All that is irrelevant unless you drive them!

But yes, absolutely. I knew a guy with a 308GTS, supposedly annual suspension bush changes etc etc.

Back on Jags I grew up near a bloke with E types. A series iii V12 fixed head coupe in dark dark blue. Utterly gorgeous. It drove from the shed onto the trailer and from the trailer to designated parking spots for shows. All factory stock to the polished centrelock wire wheels. It was just too expensive to drive as even a weekender. He had a silver 4.2 track beast. Engine punching out 400ish hp coupled to a non oem 5 speed box. Modified suspension, brakes etc. Wide alloys that mimicked the D type Mg wheels pushed out to the guard edges. Quite a weapon. Then he had another fixed head tourer. White. Similar suspension and brake mods to the track car just softer. It had a 350 chev and th400. He had bought an ls3 and 6l to swap into it. He was also sniffing around a Sebring replica and was tossing up engines options. It had a hairy 12 but he preferred to put a bored 4.2 in it.





Not sure if it was this one.
 
This belongs to a bloke in our Salt lake racing club...( and a blown jag 12 on the stand )
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beeb said:
If they're any good at their job, yes. What happened? Major pothole or kerb strike?
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Dunno - they’re a set of used wheels/tyres I got cheap for an i30 I’m sorting out for mum. Going by the adjacent tweak to the edge of the rim I’m going with kerb grazing. It’s a cut, not impact from a pothole.

Am putting 16 steelies on it as they live on shitty bush tracks and the car came with hectic low profile alloys that would suck.
 
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