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Mattydv
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^^^ You bought it? NICE!
I'm getting ~300km out of a 50L (45L?) tank in my '96 Legacy GT-B. Now until reading that post I was convinced there was something wrong with the engine that the mechanics had overlooked last service (3 weeks ago), but now it seems more normal. Another mate was getting 300km around town on his 2000 B4, but I also assumed that was because he was running really rich (single turbo conversion mod et. al.).
What sort of costs do you think I would be looking at for something similiar to what you did? Do you think I'd be likely to see similiar changes?
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I'm getting ~300km out of a 50L (45L?) tank in my '96 Legacy GT-B. Now until reading that post I was convinced there was something wrong with the engine that the mechanics had overlooked last service (3 weeks ago), but now it seems more normal. Another mate was getting 300km around town on his 2000 B4, but I also assumed that was because he was running really rich (single turbo conversion mod et. al.).
What sort of costs do you think I would be looking at for something similiar to what you did? Do you think I'd be likely to see similiar changes?
fairy1
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If it just went for a service the mechanics would have done filters and fluids, I doubt they would have looked at why it would be using that much fuel.
My car is now using more fuel and I'm pretty sure it's due to the thermostat spring getting a bit lazy, the car is taking longer to warm up and if they run cold they run rich.
I know sweet FA about the Subies but if they have a hotwire type AFM it would be worth giving it a clean. Old vacuum lines can also cause high fuel usage but can be very hard to diagnose/find.
My car is now using more fuel and I'm pretty sure it's due to the thermostat spring getting a bit lazy, the car is taking longer to warm up and if they run cold they run rich.
I know sweet FA about the Subies but if they have a hotwire type AFM it would be worth giving it a clean. Old vacuum lines can also cause high fuel usage but can be very hard to diagnose/find.
leitch
Feelin' a bit rrranty
No. Fucking. Way.
The gen2 tank is 60L, fuel light should come on at the 9L mark. Thats pretty shitty economy, worse with NZ fuel prices!
A guy I went to school with has a 95 GT auto wagon & he's getting ~450km around town. You'd think you could do better with the manual.
FWIW I get 450+ around town in my '99 GT-B, which stretches out to the high 600 range on the highway to when the fuel light comes on. Thats driving around on the primary (<4k) 90% of the time.
And in other news I'm reverting the wagon almost back to stock & selling it. Looking at getting into a V5 2 door STi at this stage. Or maybe committing & buying a house. Dunno.
AngoXC
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That's not great economy, especially if you're driving conservatively.
Was the mechanic's look over an actual service?
Could be anything but I'd be checking the health of;
1) oxygen sensor
2) coolant temp sensor
3) spark plugs/ leads
4) AFM
5) TPS
6) knock sensor
Fresh oil and and running some upper engine cleaner through does wonders also. Better intake/exhaust can yield some improvements too I believe.
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Eeeeeh. Picked this up on Saturday
Taken spoiler off (just need to find plugs for the holes. Running packing tape over them right now to keep moisture out hahah) as well as started on a list of maintenance things that need doing soon-ish.
Also, found gearbox, shifter, x member, bell housing bolts, 6-puck clutch, flywheel, flywheel bolts, clutch master cylinder with slave and metal line and a clutch pedal for $1,000 pick-up in South Australia. Probably a bit much, I don't even have the money right now hahah, but it would be ideal if I could drop price a bit. All that leaves is thrust/spigot bearings and a tailshaft... Sound about right?
And Toff; you have one sexy garage
Taken spoiler off (just need to find plugs for the holes. Running packing tape over them right now to keep moisture out hahah) as well as started on a list of maintenance things that need doing soon-ish.
Also, found gearbox, shifter, x member, bell housing bolts, 6-puck clutch, flywheel, flywheel bolts, clutch master cylinder with slave and metal line and a clutch pedal for $1,000 pick-up in South Australia. Probably a bit much, I don't even have the money right now hahah, but it would be ideal if I could drop price a bit. All that leaves is thrust/spigot bearings and a tailshaft... Sound about right?
And Toff; you have one sexy garage
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floody
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XJR looks great Yogibear. Don't they have the Ohlins shocks anymore though?
Nice buy Toff, seen that around a bit over the years. Be careful of the old adage 'better off to feed one good horse well than seven bad horses poorly' though (as I should).
MattyDV, whats in it? do they have multiple cats and all that stuff? If they were blocked/collapsed at all it would hurt fuel consumption.
Most jap imports need the O2/s done, regardless of the car. Hotwire AFMs do get grubby and read oddly leading to fuelling inaccuracy. End of the day best practice is to make sure all the essential sensors are operating as they should. Often the best way to do that is to replace as many as you can with new ones. Probably going to be $1k plus all inc labour etc if it has two O2s to swap.
Nice buy Toff, seen that around a bit over the years. Be careful of the old adage 'better off to feed one good horse well than seven bad horses poorly' though (as I should).
MattyDV, whats in it? do they have multiple cats and all that stuff? If they were blocked/collapsed at all it would hurt fuel consumption.
Most jap imports need the O2/s done, regardless of the car. Hotwire AFMs do get grubby and read oddly leading to fuelling inaccuracy. End of the day best practice is to make sure all the essential sensors are operating as they should. Often the best way to do that is to replace as many as you can with new ones. Probably going to be $1k plus all inc labour etc if it has two O2s to swap.
Toff
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Fear not Mark, this one's for dad. Something of a daily drive while he works on the 4 door. Also picked up a 16v 1.8 for a steal so we're still flipping up what to do with everything.
Nothing much wrong with it, only rust is under the passenger side floor and the seller included a replacement section. He also threw in what seemed to be half a car worth of parts, mostly little bolts, plastic bits and random trim pieces that would otherwise be a pain to source individually. So there's plenty of parts for the 4 door.
Nothing much wrong with it, only rust is under the passenger side floor and the seller included a replacement section. He also threw in what seemed to be half a car worth of parts, mostly little bolts, plastic bits and random trim pieces that would otherwise be a pain to source individually. So there's plenty of parts for the 4 door.
Mattydv
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60L ay? Seems my read out could be wrong too in that case, the dial was almost as low as it could go and when I filled up it came to 44L.
Apparently, it was done when I bought the car.
Will hopefully do that this weekend. I've put up a post on the Kiwi Subaru forums asking for the name of a decent mechanic locally, so with a bit of luck I'll get the full story about what's going on before too long. Just got to save a bit more $$.
No idea sorry, my GT-B engine knowledge ends after EJ20 and the valley of death.
Hmm ok. Would an O2 sensor likely be something that I could bribe a local forum member to help me change with a case of beer? Being a student and all...
Thanks for the responses though guys, really helpful.
floody
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Ok, cool. Interesting daily driver but I reckon he wouldn't get much/any attention in it. 4 door - got two golfs?
'Sif not put the 16v in the 3 door though!
Toff
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Yea, he's not who you'd expect to see driving it (love to see the look on a coppers face when he pulls him over expecting to see a young p plater but instead finding a 65 year old pensioner at the wheel ) but he loves these old golfs, had one new back in '77 and reckons it was one of the best cars he's driven. We're going to have to raise it about and inch or so because right now it scrapes on just about everything, makes for a pretty nervous drive. Also with any luck we'll get rid of the current wheels and replace them with 13x7 mini/superlites all round, don't like different sizes on FWD's.
4 door was posted in here a while back, blue one with no bonnet and 15x7 Compomotive copies. He's also got another 4 door shell which we're planning on refurbishing and then put all the good stuff from the other 4 door on. So there's 2 whole cars, one shell, 2 1.6 engines w/ 4 spd boxes, a 1.8 8v w/ 5spd which will go into either the 2 or 4 door, and a 16v 1.8 which needs a full rebuild and gearbox sourced and then put into whichever one didn't get the other 1.8. Or at least that's the plan.
Most likely outcome is the 1.8 8v will go into the 4 door, then once that car is all finished and working, we'll take the 2 door off the road and get the 16v into it.
) but he loves these old golfs, had one new back in '77 and reckons it was one of the best cars he's driven. We're going to have to raise it about and inch or so because right now it scrapes on just about everything, makes for a pretty nervous drive. Also with any luck we'll get rid of the current wheels and replace them with 13x7 mini/superlites all round, don't like different sizes on FWD's.4 door was posted in here a while back, blue one with no bonnet and 15x7 Compomotive copies. He's also got another 4 door shell which we're planning on refurbishing and then put all the good stuff from the other 4 door on. So there's 2 whole cars, one shell, 2 1.6 engines w/ 4 spd boxes, a 1.8 8v w/ 5spd which will go into either the 2 or 4 door, and a 16v 1.8 which needs a full rebuild and gearbox sourced and then put into whichever one didn't get the other 1.8. Or at least that's the plan.
Most likely outcome is the 1.8 8v will go into the 4 door, then once that car is all finished and working, we'll take the 2 door off the road and get the 16v into it.
Toff
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Yep, 175/50's. If we can get some funds sorted a set of 13x7's will be on the cards, wrapped in 185/60's. Until then it's off to Laurie to get it raised slightly, then have a wheel alignment. Might see if I can get the current ones for myself, get them re-drilled and put 'em on the Escort
They're so cheap in NZ though (dont know why, import laws?), 10k for a bottom of the barrel one here.
I am leaning towards Subarus though, maybe a normal Liberty or early Forester, but they all have pretty high kms. Is the go forever Subaru reputation to be trusted?
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