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Fixed that post for you. I'm gonna go squeeze my XTR's for a little while.
Rotorburn Brake Banter
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Fixed that post for you. I'm gonna go squeeze my XTR's for a little while.
pink poodle
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I've had Avid juicey, elixir, and code brakes. I've had hope v4 and x2. I've had shimano XT, depression, and slx...
Shimano is by far the easiest bleed. And that "far" is a very big far.
Hope feel the nicest out of all and look the sexist. Their adjustments also work better.
Original Avid codes were a lovely brake.
Shimano is by far the easiest bleed. And that "far" is a very big far.
Hope feel the nicest out of all and look the sexist. Their adjustments also work better.
Original Avid codes were a lovely brake.
Flow-Rider
Burner
Avids just aren't for the home mechanic and take a bit longer to set up. I rode a few demo bikes with XT and XTR, all of them had a sticky piston and the lever feel was horrible. I don't call a sponge lever modulation. If I had the money to blow, it would be Hopes and then top of the line Formula :behindsofa:
wesdadude
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If you're after results for gravity brakes this is what people run at Whistler
I've had Elixir 3s that were at the end of their life, they had all the standard (and some not so standard) Avid issues, I also have a pair of Elixir Rs that've been strangely flawless. Currently I've got XT M785s and SLX M675s that feel great and Saint M820s on the downhill bike that don't. M820s with inconsistent lever feel appears to be an extremely common issue, as schmity said, there's probably air buried deep in the caliper.
I've also shuttle road tested a friend's formulas and hated them.
I've had Elixir 3s that were at the end of their life, they had all the standard (and some not so standard) Avid issues, I also have a pair of Elixir Rs that've been strangely flawless. Currently I've got XT M785s and SLX M675s that feel great and Saint M820s on the downhill bike that don't. M820s with inconsistent lever feel appears to be an extremely common issue, as schmity said, there's probably air buried deep in the caliper.
I've also shuttle road tested a friend's formulas and hated them.
I've disassembled M785s to see how it works. IIRC The screw sits against a hinged plastic part that pushes on the back of the master cylinder.
It does work (as in it does what it's designed to do). It's just naff at how effectively it works.
Boom King
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I've got Formula RO's that I absolutely love and have had zero issues. Plenty of power and excellent modulation.
Guide RS on the Povo Rune have been problem free as well and also have good power and feel. Used to have Zee's but they were not so good. Lever pump issues and pad contamination through leaking seals I suspect.
Have run Elixir 5 without issue also.
Guide RS on the Povo Rune have been problem free as well and also have good power and feel. Used to have Zee's but they were not so good. Lever pump issues and pad contamination through leaking seals I suspect.
Have run Elixir 5 without issue also.
The reason I tend to go with XTs is that they come with fined metallic pads which the SLX don't tend to.
And the bolt that holds the pads in place is nicer than the split pin.
I like shimano, they work well for the price, I bleed mine once a year, they have handled 1500m vert descents with out fading.
Rode a new set of guides the other day, demoed a nomad on a trail I know well. They lacked the power of my XTs and the lever feel didn't do it for me. But a few of the guys I ride with love them and hate shimano. So it's very horse for courses
Nautonier
Eats Squid
Interesting. With mine the screw position was making absolutely no difference to the contact point and when I took it out there appeared to be nothing behind it - meaning that it was a scam. Eventually the frustration with this lack of adjustment and always having the levers with wildly different amounts of throw (no matter how I bled them) is what me go back to Sram brakes.
It's a black plastic part. Unless you pull the lever off you want be able to see much.
Tubeless
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They have been replaced by the M8000, yea? So I'm assuming, its a matter of only finding a secondhand set of M785s now.
Haven't had much luck finding a complete set online anywhere.
Haha, yes at the moment I do actually!
I think I'm also a little bit of a research junkie and love hearing peoples first hand experiences with parts.
And how would you rank them? Quite a collection of different brakes there, are there any standouts/duds amongst them in your experience?
How do the M8000 compare? From what I've been reading they're not quite as trouble free as their predecesser (M785).
How long have you had them before they began shitting themselves?
Nice link, cheers!
I've borrowed a mates bike with Formulas (cannot remember model) and I didn't think they were that much better than my current Hayes and its sort of put me off them unfortunately, as I guess it could of been the pads he is using or they may need bleeding.
I'm interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded from M785s to M8000? As the more recent the ride threads became it also became apparent the more that M8000s were being used.
Also off to search what the difference is between Dot and Mineral oil, seems like quite a decisive factor as well.
wkkie
It's Not Easy Being Green
I can't compare the difference between the 785 & 8000, I've never used the 785s.
The difference between the 800 and 8000 is vast in pretty much every way. I'm using sintered pads in both and the 8000 have more power and more modulation. You'd hope so too with about 10 years give or take between the releases...
pink poodle
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You mean like this?
https://www.merlincycles.com/shiman...9LWW--lGzxkIeJH3SnEjoW9_g6tdFDLK2EaArLo8P8HAQ
You don't mind a black/silver combo? If so:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...LUXdGxvF7Nc9jKAQq_Av4aAj098P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds
http://www.cellbikes.com.au/Shimano...G4pZ34BrUV4emVfeyyFT2zdpQb1voDo2qQaAlKR8P8HAQ
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/121...5960-0%26rvr_id%3D1081487220958&ul_noapp=true
Seems they are out there, but getting scarce.
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OTH Dave
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Those ones from merlin still work out to be a black silver combo.
I was recently trying to find a pair of same colour ones and couldn't.
Ended up getting the SLX 675 ones from Evans cycles for $128 for the set. Bargin, and I am very happy with them.
Previously had Elixer 5s and sick of the cost of getting them bled by LBS. Shimano I can do myself so they will basically pay for themselves in 12 months.
The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Depends where you get them. I've very often found the opposite to be the case.
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You're gonna have to start putting a trigger warning on these posts so the Shimano haters stop "sour grapes'ing" about your superior brake choices.
They've already paid for themselves because you only need to bleed Shimano brakes once.