Snakes
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born-again-biker
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Sound logic Spike.
I do most of my riding on my own....in Tasmania....usually bugger all people around. Plenty of "legless lizards" though....
....just don't tell my wife.
MarioM
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On my training ride yesterday the first one I came across I almost stepped on . I came to a stop to try and walk around a bog pit and it was right there . We both shit ourselves but I`d also disturbed the rather large goanna that was about to make the red belly its lunch . My my was he pissed ! I waited until he was completely up the tree before I ran like a girl ! The second one was around a corner at speed - just did not see it - and as I went past tried to lift my leg but being clipped in that didn`t work . After that I called it a day .
I`ve not thought too much about snakes and don`t carry any first aid but thats about to change . My training rides at Nowra take me into some deep forests well away from civilisation and my missus says I should have a basic first aid kit with me . I now agree with her .
I`ve not thought too much about snakes and don`t carry any first aid but thats about to change . My training rides at Nowra take me into some deep forests well away from civilisation and my missus says I should have a basic first aid kit with me . I now agree with her .
born-again-biker
Is looking for a 16" bar
My Mum lives near Nowra on about 100 acres. That whole area is f@cking infested with snakes! They see 'em every second day. I would definitely be packing a bandage & flare gun if I was riding 'round those parts.
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Mr Greenfield
https://www.flyingdoctor.org.au/news/flying-doctor-issues-new-snakebite-advice/
Flying Doctor issues new snakebite advice
DATE PUBLISHED
05 Oct 2017
The Royal Flying Doctor Service South Eastern (RFDS SE) Section has updated its advice and procedures following the publication of a new snakebite study. The Australian Snakebite Project is the most comprehensive ever carried out, involved over 1500 patients and collated snakebite data from the past 10 years (2005-15).*
“The publication of this study is very timely as the warm, dry winter and sudden rise in temperatures has brought snakes out early this year,” said Tracey King, Senior Flight Nurse at RFDS SE, who has attended snakebites during her career.
“As venomous snakes are found in every state and territory we urge everyone, not just those in the warmer Outback locations, to be vigilant.”
“There are around 3,000 reported snakebites each year in Australia, resulting in 500 hospital admissions and an average of two fatalities.”*
The Australian Snakebite Project threw up some surprising statistics, which challenges many long-held perceptions about where snake attacks occur and how to treat them.*
In those attacks in which the snake was positively identified, the brown snake was the most common biter*(41%), followed by the tiger snake (17%) and red-bellied black snake (16%).*
There-quarters of the people bitten are males aged in their 30’s. Most snake attacks occur near houses, not in the bush. Half of all bites occurred while people were out walking, with gardening and trying to catch a snake the most common other scenarios.*
While only 20- 25 out of 835 cases they studied resulted in death, the effects of a snakebite can be debilitating and far-reaching. Three-quarters of those bitten experienced venom-induced consumption coagulopathy, which causes blood clotting and life-threatening haemorrhages. Acute kidney injuries, brain and muscle damage and cardiac arrest are other possible side effects.*
“That’s why it’s important that people act quickly after a possible bite,” said Tracey.*
“Surprisingly, they’re often painless and may go unnoticed as tissue damage is mostly light – lacerations, scratches or light bruising along with some bleeding or swelling. As over 90% of snakebites we found to occur on the upper and lower limbs, these are the places to check first.”*
“Common symptoms include an unexplained collapse, vomiting and abdominal pain, bleeding or paralysis.”*
Many dangerous myths surround the treatment of snakebites. The most important dos and don’ts include.
* Do NOT wash the area of the bite or try to suck out the venom. It is extremely important to retain traces of venom for use with venom identification kits.*
* Do NOT incise or cut the bite, or apply a high tourniquet. Cutting or incising the bite won't help. High tourniquets are ineffective and can be fatal if released.*
* Do bandage firmly, splint and immobilise to stop the spread of venom. All the major medical associations recommend slowing the spread of venom by placing a folded pad over the bite area and then applying a firm bandage. It should not stop blood flow to the limb or congest the veins. Only remove the bandage in a medical facility, as the release of pressure will cause a rapid flow of venom through the bloodstream.*
* Do NOT allow the victim to walk or move their limbs. Use a splint or sling to minimise all limb movement. Put the patient on a stretcher or bring transportation to the patient.*
* Do seek medical help immediately as the venom can cause severe damage to health or even death within a few hours.*
The new study has prompted the RFDS SE to reverse previous long-standing advice about the importance of identifying the colour and type of snake.*
“Staying in the area after an attack can be dangerous and recent advances in medication mean we can now treat any snakebite with a generic polyvalent anti-venom, so identification is no longer necessary.”*
Flying Doctor issues new snakebite advice
DATE PUBLISHED
05 Oct 2017
The Royal Flying Doctor Service South Eastern (RFDS SE) Section has updated its advice and procedures following the publication of a new snakebite study. The Australian Snakebite Project is the most comprehensive ever carried out, involved over 1500 patients and collated snakebite data from the past 10 years (2005-15).*
“The publication of this study is very timely as the warm, dry winter and sudden rise in temperatures has brought snakes out early this year,” said Tracey King, Senior Flight Nurse at RFDS SE, who has attended snakebites during her career.
“As venomous snakes are found in every state and territory we urge everyone, not just those in the warmer Outback locations, to be vigilant.”
“There are around 3,000 reported snakebites each year in Australia, resulting in 500 hospital admissions and an average of two fatalities.”*
The Australian Snakebite Project threw up some surprising statistics, which challenges many long-held perceptions about where snake attacks occur and how to treat them.*
In those attacks in which the snake was positively identified, the brown snake was the most common biter*(41%), followed by the tiger snake (17%) and red-bellied black snake (16%).*
There-quarters of the people bitten are males aged in their 30’s. Most snake attacks occur near houses, not in the bush. Half of all bites occurred while people were out walking, with gardening and trying to catch a snake the most common other scenarios.*
While only 20- 25 out of 835 cases they studied resulted in death, the effects of a snakebite can be debilitating and far-reaching. Three-quarters of those bitten experienced venom-induced consumption coagulopathy, which causes blood clotting and life-threatening haemorrhages. Acute kidney injuries, brain and muscle damage and cardiac arrest are other possible side effects.*
“That’s why it’s important that people act quickly after a possible bite,” said Tracey.*
“Surprisingly, they’re often painless and may go unnoticed as tissue damage is mostly light – lacerations, scratches or light bruising along with some bleeding or swelling. As over 90% of snakebites we found to occur on the upper and lower limbs, these are the places to check first.”*
“Common symptoms include an unexplained collapse, vomiting and abdominal pain, bleeding or paralysis.”*
Many dangerous myths surround the treatment of snakebites. The most important dos and don’ts include.
* Do NOT wash the area of the bite or try to suck out the venom. It is extremely important to retain traces of venom for use with venom identification kits.*
* Do NOT incise or cut the bite, or apply a high tourniquet. Cutting or incising the bite won't help. High tourniquets are ineffective and can be fatal if released.*
* Do bandage firmly, splint and immobilise to stop the spread of venom. All the major medical associations recommend slowing the spread of venom by placing a folded pad over the bite area and then applying a firm bandage. It should not stop blood flow to the limb or congest the veins. Only remove the bandage in a medical facility, as the release of pressure will cause a rapid flow of venom through the bloodstream.*
* Do NOT allow the victim to walk or move their limbs. Use a splint or sling to minimise all limb movement. Put the patient on a stretcher or bring transportation to the patient.*
* Do seek medical help immediately as the venom can cause severe damage to health or even death within a few hours.*
The new study has prompted the RFDS SE to reverse previous long-standing advice about the importance of identifying the colour and type of snake.*
“Staying in the area after an attack can be dangerous and recent advances in medication mean we can now treat any snakebite with a generic polyvalent anti-venom, so identification is no longer necessary.”*
Miguel75
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Out for a drive with the kids today and happen upon a 4' Tiger snake on the road out front of our place, in Melton... we stopped to look as no other cars were coming, until a truck turns the corner and runs the poor thing over
I was going to finish it off but by the time I'd thrown a u turn it'd flipped itself to the edge of the road and seemed quite angry about being run over so much left it alone...
I was going to finish it off but by the time I'd thrown a u turn it'd flipped itself to the edge of the road and seemed quite angry about being run over so much left it alone...
Mywifesirrational
I however am very normal. Trust me.
Half of all bites occurred while people were out walking, with gardening and trying to catch a snake...
People trying to catch a snake, ah lol, people are not smart.
People trying to catch a snake, ah lol, people are not smart.
Flow-Rider
Burner
I reside in an area where I've been living in and out for more than 40 years and there's an abundance of eastern browns, I see on the local facebook page people asking for ID of a juvenile brown snake and people give all these strange answers of snakes that aren't even common in the area. Next minute, a feed comes up from a local snake catcher where this women has picked up this eastern brown and been envenomated.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Walking the dogs near the creek on the weekend a rustle in the grass caused me to look over and see the back of the biggest fucking brown snake I have ever seen... I swear it was as thick as my wrist and Im not a complete wimp.
Only ever seen a bigger and fatter snake and that was a Tasmanian Tiger thankfully going the other way.
Dogs were on a lead luckily and they wont be coming off the leads along that creek all summer!!!!!
Only ever seen a bigger and fatter snake and that was a Tasmanian Tiger thankfully going the other way.
Dogs were on a lead luckily and they wont be coming off the leads along that creek all summer!!!!!
born-again-biker
Is looking for a 16" bar
Farrk.
Not surprised you were near water. I'm always vigilant near creeks & streams...dems good huntin' grounds!
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Not surprised you were near water. I'm always vigilant near creeks & streams...dems good huntin' grounds!
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First snake encounter for season today.. Young bloke and I were riding down the main yarra trail near Rosanna golf club (tiger snake heaven) and he ran straight over a decent length tiger snake. It flicked around pretty pissed and had half a go at him then decided to do the same to me. Lucky it wasn't really trying. Young bloke still didn't see it and had no idea what had happened. Bliss for him, heart attack for me.
Mr Crudley
Glock in your sock
Just saw a largish black on the trail next to the rocks at the start of Multiple Choice at Wylde. I like a bit of speed on that section but hit the anchors in a hurry and did my best 'Ngghaaaarrrrrr' voice. I called it then and headed back in true nancy fashion.
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Mr Crudley
Glock in your sock
If Mrs saw anything like that in our backyard, I'd have to sellup immediately.Not out riding, at home...
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mtb101
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if it is a snake what type is it? I haven't seen any yet, not riding enough I guess.
I had mutiple people warn about seeing snakes on sunday as it was warm. They are loving the concrete on the paths atm (and in the cricket nets).
indica
Serial flasher
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