hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
CO2 emissions are going nuts now!
I'd argue a war would slow consumer consumption & make a positive impact on emissions as they stand today.
The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.
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I'd argue a war would slow consumer consumption & make a positive impact on emissions as they stand today.
Flow-Rider
Burner
Add more people to fight wars for more land and resources while they hide in their offices.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
I was just thinking about some wholesale slaughter...
A virus that simply sterilises 95% of men for a generation would be a less messy solution though.
Calvin27
Eats Squid
It's already happening to both women and men alike. It's called debt. Debt makes people older when they have kids and this self perpetuates.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Yeah, but then a shit tonne of tax dollars get thrown at IVF and associated leave...
John U
MTB Precision
That is policy not keeping up with science. A whole different kettle of fish to science not keeping up, especially with conservative governments.
Calvin27
Eats Squid
Singles are basically the tax carrying force that keep the country running, and to add insult to injury, they also have to fund their own retirement as well as current pensioners.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Dont forget "selfish for not wanting kids"...
Scotty T
Walks the walk
There's a bunch of arguments saying one less kid would make a massive dent.
In all honesty, it was a factor in us not having more than one kid even all those years ago when the first one was reaching an age where many parents make a second one. If we hadn't had the kid almost 20 years ago, and with things as dire they are now, we might well have been childless too.
Selfish childless people! Selfish for not giving the first kid another kid to keep it company!
In all honesty, it was a factor in us not having more than one kid even all those years ago when the first one was reaching an age where many parents make a second one. If we hadn't had the kid almost 20 years ago, and with things as dire they are now, we might well have been childless too.
Selfish childless people! Selfish for not giving the first kid another kid to keep it company!
Scotty T
Walks the walk
Haha that's one way to put it, now I'm feeling guilty for not making my kid ride enough. Or making him ride too much. Still, he turned out OK.
Calvin27
Eats Squid
The kids thing is a hard one because it's so emotionally and biologically charged.
At the very least I'd recommend winding back government backed subsidies and actually implementing policies to discourage, say beyond 2 kids. Once again though the problem is the perpetual growth engine that is our economy.
At the very least I'd recommend winding back government backed subsidies and actually implementing policies to discourage, say beyond 2 kids. Once again though the problem is the perpetual growth engine that is our economy.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
True that. CC cannot be solved inside the capitalism bubble.
Instead, CC is likely to burst the capitalism bubble...
Instead, CC is likely to burst the capitalism bubble...
John U
MTB Precision
Reproducing is an instinct. So is consumption, and probably even war and territorial disputes.
If we are to survive as a species, and not completely fuck the planet, we’ll need to go against a lot of our basic instincts.
I see one version of the future as being like a zombie movie with a slightly adjusted frame of reference. Instead of being walking dead the zombies are just starving humans in search of food. Sure, they won’t be eating brains, but there’ll be a truckload of them, and they won’t be looking too healthy.
If we are to survive as a species, and not completely fuck the planet, we’ll need to go against a lot of our basic instincts.
I see one version of the future as being like a zombie movie with a slightly adjusted frame of reference. Instead of being walking dead the zombies are just starving humans in search of food. Sure, they won’t be eating brains, but there’ll be a truckload of them, and they won’t be looking too healthy.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
This is non-fiction, yeah?
droenn
Fat Man's XC President
Well, having sex is the instinct. Reproducing is a societal cue/pressure.
Calvin27
Eats Squid
Easy just ban dropper posts.Well, having sex is the instinct. Reproducing is a societal cue/pressure.
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
I'd argue the socialist bubble would have even less chance of solving CC. Market economies have an efficient mechanism for internalising environmental externalities. Pricing in efficient markets worked a treat for sulphur emissions and could work for carbon. The problem (as always) are the narrow sectional interests, particularly in coal.
The former USSR and to some extent China had hilariously inefficient state sectors, which in a socialist economy is most of the economy. Sure they weren't making throw away clothes but millions of tanks, nuclear missiles subs that had a nasty habit of melting down, and a huge standing army tends to put a drag on a economy. Then power the whole thing with medieval coal fired plants and reactors that go pop!
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hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
The funny thing is, the collapse of the Soviet Union can be measured in the CO2 emission record:
Can we not bring in a carbon tax & dividend inside the capitalism system?
God knows...
Can we not bring in a carbon tax & dividend inside the capitalism system?
God knows...
Everyone stop breathing out for 30 minutes a day. Easy fix.