Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Mind you, the Maori were a fair bit more "assertive" than the locals here. Imagine being on Cook's ship and seeing a Maori war canoe coming at you with a bunch of pissed off Maoris on it - you'd be shitting yourself!
The election thread - Medicare Vs cost of living Vs OMG China! Vs housing Vs I'm not Trump! Vs prehistoric fish Vs nuclear energy Vs tariffs Vs AUKUS
- Thread starter johnny
- Start date
ForkinGreat
Knows his Brassica oleracea
I bet there would have been more than one
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Yep. I bet they set a world record for getting their sails up!!I bet there would have been more than one
ForkinGreat
Knows his Brassica oleracea
...or loading their muskets/flintlocks
pink poodle
私はイナゴです
For the learned I'm pretty sure history reveals how that arrogant cock would respond to something like that quite well. A fitting end.
You do realise your statement isn't far off saying "I don't see any fences, so terra nullius it is!"?
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
sorry what?
pink poodle
私はイナゴです
I'm not here to educate you. If you choose to be ignorant of this sort of thing enjoy it.
Flow-Rider
Burner
How much does it cost in the courts battling this shit with Australian taxpayer's money, while people are sleeping in tents and cars?
Māori group fighting to reclaim land in Sydney gifted by Aboriginal king 200 years ago
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Umm. You're accusing me of something I guess, but not sure what you've read into it....
ForkinGreat
Knows his Brassica oleracea
How exactly does this Maori group think they are going to win in court? Maybe in New Zealand, but ..... WTAF?!?!
Flow-Rider
Burner
It's been dealt with AFAIK, it got thrown out of federal court.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
I can't see a good, or even remotely legitimate reason to vote no and I can see a number of good ones to vote yes.
Even the one reason that may have some legitimacy about putting treaty first is not easy as I understand it from what I've heard. There would need to be a number of treaties in each state.
The old "it won't make a difference on the ground" is not proven and can't be until it's tried. How does treaty first make a difference on this?
So in my own simple interpretation voice will enable treaty and without both we're not adressing truth.
My own birth father posted some racist filth about aboriginal people with all the colonial tropes and I commented but he seems to actually be too stupid to look at comments. I've not escalated as we don't talk much but my wife's birthday is soon so he'll probably ring and I'll address it. That's only the start of the family shit I have related to this issue.
I really hope we as a nation don't fuck this up.
Even the one reason that may have some legitimacy about putting treaty first is not easy as I understand it from what I've heard. There would need to be a number of treaties in each state.
The old "it won't make a difference on the ground" is not proven and can't be until it's tried. How does treaty first make a difference on this?
So in my own simple interpretation voice will enable treaty and without both we're not adressing truth.
My own birth father posted some racist filth about aboriginal people with all the colonial tropes and I commented but he seems to actually be too stupid to look at comments. I've not escalated as we don't talk much but my wife's birthday is soon so he'll probably ring and I'll address it. That's only the start of the family shit I have related to this issue.
I really hope we as a nation don't fuck this up.
Asininedrivel
caviar connoisseur
I don't think we will. This debate is giving off pretty strong vibes of how the marriage equality plebiscite was going in 2017 - acrimonious and increasingly ugly lead up then a result that was generally very positive. This might not have the same margins (or it might) but it will get across the line.
Thanks Eeyore
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Just an observation of humanity's track record
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
Just to add to this, anything that makes politicians have to justify their decisions is a good thing in my book.
I don't believe for a second that the voice will be a panacea for indigenous disadvantage, but it might just provide some clues into why we as a nation haven't been able to close the 'gap'.
Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk
rockmoose
his flabber is totally gastered
It would certainly shine a light on some uncomfortable policy situations. A number of pollies would prefer to keep that well tucked away in a dark corner.
I see the voice as the first long overdue step in getting some proper balance. The treaty is a whole new discussion and I don't think that will ever get up regardless of what it says. Too much time has passed and there will always be the whole apology for ancestors issue. Better to legislate what a treaty should say and tge voice gets the ball rolling. As @Scotty T said there are no cons (as far as I can tell) and plenty of positives.
rockmoose
his flabber is totally gastered
Let's see how far this goes. She certainly needs more than just suspension without pay.
But their might be a couple of people above her who are also due some retribution.
www.abc.net.au
But their might be a couple of people above her who are also due some retribution.
Top bureaucrat behind Robodebt suspended from $900k job
The senior bureaucrat who oversaw the rollout of the Robodebt scheme is suspended without pay after the royal commission found she did "nothing of substance" after discovering illegalities.
www.abc.net.au