ForkinGreat
Knows his Brassica oleracea
I'm sure he'll do that to himself soon enough.
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His ideological flip and spiral towards the gutter is truly something to behold; from leader of the Labour Party to One Nation outcast and political pariah.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
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Scotty T
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WTF.
Easy, bailouts are share purchases...
Dutton's sacrificing of the AEC's integrity in the name of political expedience is not only Trumpian (he literally used the term "rigged"), but it's one of the lowest acts the Liberal Party have committed so far. There is literally a taskforce within the Department of Home Affairs looking at how to increase democratic resilience in Australia. Problem is, the greatest threat to the trustworthiness of democracy is the behaviour of politicians (this is not supposition, this is what the data says).
Not only is Dutton's LNP willing to sacrifice the potential for FN people to move forward, but they're also willing to damage the integrity of our democracy for political gain. I genuinely struggle to see what positive value the Liberal Party offers, they're no longer actual conservatives, given what happened under Morrison and now under Dutton, they're not even democratic. wannabe populists and autocrats.
Not only is Dutton's LNP willing to sacrifice the potential for FN people to move forward, but they're also willing to damage the integrity of our democracy for political gain. I genuinely struggle to see what positive value the Liberal Party offers, they're no longer actual conservatives, given what happened under Morrison and now under Dutton, they're not even democratic. wannabe populists and autocrats.
fjohn860
Alice in diaperland
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
A simple basic Yes or No option that is really hard to stuff up is ideal.
But when a tick counts but a cross may not count, then it creates a perception of an advantage to one side.
Regardless of existing laws how they have not seen this and fixed it to remove any negative perception that will just be used to bash the process is beyond me. Modern politics is just bashing the process to pop pop the other side.
safreek
*******
Bloody politicians of all kind are just parasites, no backbone.
I don't like Albo but that other c*** takes the cake for not bagging Morrison.
Liberal needs new young blood, until then I'll keep voting for shooters party or Cannabis reform.
IMO anybody struggling to understand the instructions is unlikely to have understood the question put to them.
The idea that this favours one side over the other is a cynical attempt to influence votes before the fact.
beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
safreek
*******
I don't think it favours anyone, people have already made their minds up one way or the other. I just believe the question is yes or no, it doesn't even mention tick or cross so either should be invalid.
If you can't write yes or no, as you said, no idea what they are voting for.
The problem is that this has always been the case for referendums and Dutton and LNP have always been aware of this. Either this should have been raised through previous processes or they totally missed it (very hard to imagine this being the case) and are now having a cry due to their own incompetance. Given all the cynical tactics we've seen them use so far, I'd suggest that they were always aware and are now doing their best to undermine confidence in the process.
pink poodle
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I'm pretty sure these sort of complications and the convoluted wording of the question were held up as bastions of democracy by Howard and co in the republic referendum. Of course the lack of clarity around it all was a deliberate design to aid his no campaign.
100%. My point was the AEC could have seen this coming and tested the situation by flipping the question. eg Do you NOT want a Voice in the constitution then:
Yes =Yes - No voice.
Tick = Yes - No Voice
No = No - Get a Voice
Cross = Not counted or maybe not counted. I can’t see that the AEC has completely ruled it out.
I would imagine the yes side would be jumping up and down at the above hypothetical too.
So a change or a better designed question/collection of the response could avoid the unnecessary debate over the process.
How hard is it to have a box for yes and a box for no and you cut your self and sing it with blood.
Haha, so if people are struggling to understand a simple yes or no question, flipping it so yes means no is going to really confuse them.
I mean it really couldn't be simpler, and the reason for the tick vs cross thing has been clearly explained by the AEC - ie a cross is sometimes an affirmative choice on a form.
Anybody who is actively agitating about this aspect of the referendum is being disingenuous.
