The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.

Who will you vote for?

  • Liberals

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Labor

    Votes: 21 30.9%

  • Nationals

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Greens

    Votes: 21 30.9%

  • Independant

    Votes: 15 22.1%

  • The Clive Palmer shit show

    Votes: 4 5.9%

  • Shooters and Fishers Party

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • One Nation

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Donkey/Invalid vote

    Votes: 3 4.4%
  • Total voters
    68
ForkinGreat said:
www.theguardian.com

Julian Assangeâs temporary reprieve means Australia must now work aggressively to ensure his release | Greg Barns

There is only political upside for Albanese in picking up the phone to Biden, not waiting for an appeal to wend its way through the UK courts
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I don't want journalism to be undermined by the efforts to prosecute Assange, he's already done enough damage as it is.

Bloke is getting all the shit he deserves, anyone who thinks that he's some kind of crusader needs to take an objective look at the guy and see the amount of harm he has done vastly outweighs the bit of good he has done.
 
johnny said:
I don't want journalism to be undermined by the efforts to prosecute Assange, he's already done enough damage as it is.

Bloke is getting all the shit he deserves, anyone who thinks that he's some kind of crusader needs to take an objective look at the guy and see the amount of harm he has done vastly outweighs the bit of good he has done.
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Sure, I'm sure he's done some harm, maybe even a lot of harm, but he also exposed US warcrimes, and 'most people' only remember that, and in the process of wanting to get their hooks into Assange, the USA, and the UK, has made him somewhat of a martyr, and symbol of US Oppression.

Please refresh my memory on the damage Assange has done, and to whom. some links would be handy. Not taking the piss, just not quite sure what to search for.
 
ForkinGreat said:
Sure, I'm sure he's done some harm, maybe even a lot of harm, but he also exposed US warcrimes, and 'most people' only remember that, and in the process of wanting to get their hooks into Assange, the USA, and the UK, has made him somewhat of a martyr, and symbol of US Oppression.

Please refresh my memory on the damage Assange has done, and to whom. some links would be handy. Not taking the piss, just not quite sure what to search for.
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Yeah, I think that's a pretty clear-eyed view of things.

About to go do other things, but for the time-being:
* he refused to host leaks from Russia on Wikileaks
* he coordinated DNC hack and leak ops with Russia and team Trump
* he participated in the Stratfor hack (he framed them as an unacountable contractor when they are plainly no different to the economist and part of the media landscape he claims to be part of)
* his hack and dump operations haven't redacted names and methods and have resulted in innocent people being physically harmed and disappearing.
 
johnny said:
I don't want journalism to be undermined by the efforts to prosecute Assange, he's already done enough damage as it is.

Bloke is getting all the shit he deserves, anyone who thinks that he's some kind of crusader needs to take an objective look at the guy and see the amount of harm he has done vastly outweighs the bit of good he has done.
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You need to tow the party line here @johnny . He is both a hero, icon, freedom fighter and above all else...good comrade.
 
Pretty sure I have travelled that route. It was a real clusterfuck around Baltimore. Worser now but at least the Republicans are supporting an emergency Bill to rebuild the bridge as a matter of urgency. What's that? Trump said no so they arent? Ah yes.
 
johnny said:
Yeah, I think that's a pretty clear-eyed view of things.


* his hack and dump operations haven't redacted names and methods and have resulted in innocent people being physically harmed and disappearing.
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The courts in Australia pretty much do the same thing, it's why many people refuse to give evidence in courts.
 
The whole gym industry is full of scams, crooks, and bodgy dealings. If this goes through, do we also get to claim subsidies for our bike related purchases?

www.abc.net.au

Tax-deductible gym memberships? This group reckons it's a no-brainer

Rent rises and cost-of-living pressures have seen more people cancelling their gym memberships. One fitness group thinks making gym sessions tax-deductible will keep more Australians healthy and is lobbying the government to get on board.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
rockmoose said:
The whole gym industry is full of scams, crooks, and bodgy dealings. If this goes through, do we also get to claim subsidies for our bike related purchases?

www.abc.net.au

Tax-deductible gym memberships? This group reckons it's a no-brainer

Rent rises and cost-of-living pressures have seen more people cancelling their gym memberships. One fitness group thinks making gym sessions tax-deductible will keep more Australians healthy and is lobbying the government to get on board.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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How many gym memberships out there that people never use? Probably as many as bikes that hang up in the garage and never get ridden.
 
boyracer said:
If this gets up ( the Tax deducible bike related expenses bit) it would most likely cause something like the problems in UK with ride to work scheme...
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Yes. No doubt it would be a bureaucratic dumpster fire, with just the right loopholes for the grifters to make plenty of bank, while squandering any chance of actually implementing benefits for the masses.
 
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