The election thread - Medicare Vs cost of living Vs OMG China! Vs housing Vs I'm not Trump! Vs prehistoric fish Vs nuclear energy Vs tariffs Vs AUKUS

Who will you vote for May 2025?

  • Liberals

    Votes: 2 3.9%

  • Labor

    Votes: 20 39.2%

  • Nationals

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Greens

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Independant (other than teals)

    Votes: 11 21.6%

  • Clive Palmer Trumpet of Patriots Shitshow

    Votes: 2 3.9%

  • Teals

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • One Nation

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Jacquie Lambie squad

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Donkey/Invalid vote

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Total voters
    51
Squidfayce said:
If your benefit stands to be $4, sure. I assert that those that would benefit in the +10k range would likely rethink their position when faced with it. Theres no shame in it either.
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My benefit stands to be a fair bit more than $10k, as it does for most of the anecdotal examples I have. Like I said, you do you; just don't justify it because "everyone would be the same in my position".
 
Freediver said:
Bullshit you would and for fuck sake what makes you think underpriveledged deserve nothing more than soup.
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Interesting side note - when I worked in the "aid/relief/development" field a lot of people who get help from soup kitchens say they would enjoy the chance to prepare food for others in need.


Now back to drinking that onion flavoured kool-aid.
 
Squidfayce said:
the liberals didn't force people to over extend on their mortgage or force 30% of them to to lie on their mortgage applications.

Nothing wrong with the iranian doctor pulling himself up from the worst of possible situations and becoming wealthy. He should be celebrated for his successes. Not ragged on because he worked hard to get where he is.
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Of course you miss the point.

and yes the Liberals did do that. You're not real bright are ya bud.
 
nathanm said:
and yes the Liberals did do that. You're not real bright are ya bud.
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Oh come on! Name one other, just one other time in the last 200 years where a long term engrained political agenda, culture wars, and propoganda was effective at changing a mass of people??? I bet you fucking can't because it would never have happened.
 
Oddjob said:
If you want to see what rich people think about dumb tax cuts just watch what's going on with Liz Truss and her tax cuts in the UK. The bond market vigilantes are back with a vengeance.
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I had no idea until that robotic deadshit got in that not just MPs but party members can vote for a new PM in the UK. Probably why that dumb af top level tax cut was a serious proposition - solid "fuck you got mine" vibe votes from a bunch of people who will never face an electorate or have any idea (or care) about what's good for the country.
 
Scotty T said:
Also, read the report. You are wrong in your assumptions.

47% of over $150k earners support repealing, 29% oppose.
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Im not wrong in my assumption (at least not yet) - 150k earners dont stand to make 10k +. Next

But lets just unpack the 150k earners for a sec - 47% support repealing, 29% oppose and the other 24%? Probably abstained from answering so as not to have communists jump down their throat for opposing (don't blame them :p). But in all seriousness without knowing where the other 24% stand, we can say that a minority has supported repealing them, being 47% and all.....if i had to be technical.
 
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mike14 said:
My benefit stands to be a fair bit more than $10k, as it does for most of the anecdotal examples I have. Like I said, you do you; just don't justify it because "everyone would be the same in my position".
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I didn't, i said "most" and I "i think", but if the cuts do come in, care to put your money where your mouth is and donate the lot to a charity of your choosing and post the receipt here?
 
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nathanm said:
Of course you miss the point.

and yes the Liberals did do that. You're not real bright are ya bud.
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I didn't, I just chose to respond to that aspect of the froth. Annd no they didnt. I don't accept that those things wouldn't have occurred under any othe government because they've been happening since forever. people overextending is not new. People lying on financial applications to get money is also a time honored tradition.
 
pink poodle said:
Oh come on! Name one other, just one other time in the last 200 years where a long term engrained political agenda, culture wars, and propoganda was effective at changing a mass of people??? I bet you fucking can't because it would never have happened.
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The NWO is coming and you cant stop it :D

"you'll own nothing and be happy" - World Economic Forum.
 
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Squidfayce said:
Im not wrong in my assumption (at least not yet) - 150k earners dont stand to make 10k +. Next

But lets just unpack the 150k earners for a sec - 47% support repealing, 29% oppose and the other 24%? Probably abstained from answering so as not to have communists jump down their throat for opposing (don't blame them :p). But in all seriousness without knowing where the other 24% stand, we can say that a minority has supported repealing them, being 47% and all.....if i had to be technical.
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Hahaha maybe they didn't want their wealthy friends jumping down their throat for taking their cuts away, you don't know and you can't go and change these stats based on your agenda and assumption that everyone as welathy as you is just like you. Nice try.
 
Scotty T said:
Hahaha maybe they didn't want their wealthy friends jumping down their throat for taking their cuts away, you don't know and you can't go and change these stats based on your agenda and assumption that everyone as welathy as you is just like you. Nice try.
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I didnt change the stats. A minority (47%) of people earning 150k supported repealing them. Those are your stats. :D
 
beeb said:
You're having way too much fun today, stirrer.
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Im resolute in my position and Im not ashamed of it, like some people would like me to be. That's not stirring. But the stuff about the stats is, because its technically true and works in my favour. Sue me lol
 
Squidfayce said:
the liberals didn't force people to over extend on their mortgage or force 30% of them to to lie on their mortgage applications.

Nothing wrong with the iranian doctor pulling himself up from the worst of possible situations and becoming wealthy. He should be celebrated for his successes. Not ragged on because he worked hard to get where he is.
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You do know the whole “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” a lesson in how that’s impossible right…?

And trickle down economics. I am old and cynical and not much surprises me these days, but it still does my head in that people still think like this.
 
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