Theoretical pipedream stuffabout hoon bike

[smitho]

What about a Nordest Britango? On sale at the moment and comes to just over $1k shipped to Aus.

BRITANGO 2 FRAME

EU shipping included. The Nordest Britango 2 frame is a "downcountry" model. And what is "downcountry"? Well, it's something we invented in Nordest and it looks like a cross country bike when you go up a mountain track and an enduro bike when you go down fast on the trails. NEW GEOMETRY, SAME...

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Takes 120-140mm fork, threaded BB, external routing, nice short chain stays for zipping around the pump track...

 

[PJO]

As much as I really think you should get a Pipedream Sirius I don't think there is room in your budget, the frame landed is likely to be close to $1.5k


For $650 including delivery this is a cheap option. The Ragley's ride well (my eldest has a Mmmbop and is loving it)

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[Rorschach]

What about a Nordest Britango? On sale at the moment and comes to just over $1k shipped to Aus.

BRITANGO 2 FRAME

EU shipping included. The Nordest Britango 2 frame is a "downcountry" model. And what is "downcountry"? Well, it's something we invented in Nordest and it looks like a cross country bike when you go up a mountain track and an enduro bike when you go down fast on the trails. NEW GEOMETRY, SAME...

nordestcycles.com

Takes 120-140mm fork, threaded BB, external routing, nice short chain stays for zipping around the pump track...

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I had a look at their website, I do like the black and orange one, definitely in consideration

As much as I really think you should get a Pipedream Sirius I don't think there is room in your budget, the frame landed is likely to be close to $1.5k


For $650 including delivery this is a cheap option. The Ragley's ride well (my eldest has a Mmmbop and is loving it)

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Probably around where I'll end-up if I'm honest, the frames are good value and they review well - the Hardtail Party reviews of the Big Al are complementary and they look good enough to hoon about on

 

[Rorschach]

Ok, this might be a goer.
There’s a 2019 British racing green Honzo ST on facey for $650 + delivery or a very lightly used bright yellow Cotic BFeMax locally for $700. Both good options, the Honzo might work better for this though.
Decisions decisions…

 

[beeb]

Ok, this might be a goer.
There’s a 2019 British racing green Honzo ST on facey for $650 + delivery or a very lightly used bright yellow Cotic BFeMax locally for $700. Both good options, the Honzo might work better for this though.
Decisions decisions…

For @moorey

 

[Rorschach]

For @moorey

I wish!

 

[PJO]

Ok, this might be a goer.
There’s a 2019 British racing green Honzo ST on facey for $650 + delivery or a very lightly used bright yellow Cotic BFeMax locally for $700. Both good options, the Honzo might work better for this though.
Decisions decisions…

Is the Cotic a large? Reach will be quite a bit longer than a large 2019 Honzo, even though the top tube length is similar (Cotic has steeper seat tube angle).
Also Honzo is not as slack as the BFe, depends what you are looking for.
Honzo 68 with a 120mm fork (67ish with a 140mm).
Bfe 66 with a 120mm fork and (65 with a 140).

Have ridden a 2018 Honzo (same geo as 2019) and it was a nice ride with a 140mm fork.

Edit: Also the Honzo has a waaay shorter chainstay length, something like 415-430. Bfe is 444mm

 

[Rorschach]

Is the Cotic a large? Reach will be quite a bit longer than a large 2019 Honzo, even though the top tube length is similar (Cotic has steeper seat tube angle).
Also Honzo is not as slack as the BFe, depends what you are looking for.
Honzo 68 with a 120mm fork (67ish with a 140mm).
Bfe 66 with a 120mm fork and (65 with a 140).

Have ridden a 2018 Honzo (same geo as 2019) and it was a nice ride with a 140mm fork.

Edit: Also the Honzo has a waaay shorter chainstay length, something like 415-430. Bfe is 444mm

Yeah, both large.
Given its an AM HT and I want something more as a stuff about bike I'm leaning towards the Honzo given it is less slack. Likely won't see much dirt initially so a long reach and slack HA will be overkill

 

[PJO]

Yeah, both large.
Given its an AM HT and I want something more as a stuff about bike I'm leaning towards the Honzo given it is less slack. Likely won't see much dirt initially so a long reach and slack HA will be overkill

Reckon the Honzo would be the go for a stuff around bike, especially with the shorter wheelbase (steeper head angle + shorter chainstays).

You could even run it single speed

 

[Rorschach]

Reckon the Honzo would be the go for a stuff around bike, especially with the shorter wheelbase (steeper head angle + shorter chainstays).

You could even run it single speed

That is the initial plan - cheaper than a drivetrain!

 

[Ultra Lord]

Yeah go a honzo, you aren’t cool enough for the cotic, ya big ol’ dirty nerd.

 

[Rorschach]

Yeah go a honzo, you aren’t cool enough for the cotic, ya big ol’ dirty nerd.

Hey, I resemble that comment!

 

[Ultra Lord]

Which one do you like the look of better?
Both will do the job, but the BfeMax is better in every way.

 

[Rorschach]

Which one do you like the look of better?
Both will do the job, but the BfeMax is better in every way.

Honestly have had a boner for a Honzo since I first saw them. I like the Cotic too, but not for what I want this for.

 

[caad9]

As a Cotic owner, I think the Honzo is better for your intended use.
The Cotic is built for stuff well beyond riding around with kids

 

[Rorschach]

As a Cotic owner, I think the Honzo is better for your intended use.
The Cotic is built for stuff well beyond riding around with kids

Yeah, thats how I'm leaning
Been in a google hole, this is now my inspiration: Kona Dream Builds: Kevin’s Individually Quick Honzo ST | KONA COG (konaworld.com)

 

[Ultra Lord]

Cotic measure HA at 25% sag, I don’t think Kona do?
The Bfe is a fair bit slacker than the Kona.

 

[Calvin27]

Where is team Watly?

Find the bike you want then get the chinese to build it in Ti. Cry when customs gets their hand on it then pay the ransom.

Otherwise, a dartomoor frame is pretty good value, and I have been considering one myself for a long time now.

They used to be like $600, now on sale for $400 odd

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[PJO]

Cotic measure HA at 25% sag, I don’t think Kona do?
The Bfe is a fair bit slacker than the Kona.

Always struggle to get my head around measurements at sag, just used to static geo numbers.
This would make the BFe bottom bracket height pretty high compared to the Honzo...

 

[PJO]

Yeah, thats how I'm leaning
Been in a google hole, this is now my inspiration: Kona Dream Builds: Kevin’s Individually Quick Honzo ST | KONA COG (konaworld.com)

This build is getting better by the minute