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Unless its one of the impacts, jesus christ widest shoe ever.
This one thing changed my life
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DMan
shawly the least hangeriest guy on rotorburn
I think this is where it is. Too many people think you need to be one or the other. I run flats and clips and base it on what I'm riding. Long rides I run clips as I find I fatigue more evenly in my legs. Short rides or techy rides I run flats and love them. I am much more confident on them in those situations as I can move over the pedals more and bail easier if I need to. For clips I run mallets set at 15 degrees release as I like the extra float. I Definitely vouch for 5-10s though. CRC have good specials on them here and there. I got my last pair of impacts for $100 landed. I always buy 1 EU size bigger than my other shoes too.
dancaseyimages
Mountain bike pornographer
I went the Fiveten (510) Impact pros. After years of BMX riding and picking up a mountain bike, I thought the stiffer sole and weather resistant shoe would be ideal. At $160 they have held up to all weather, almost daily riding, dont smell and have not much wear at all.
I know they are a bit over the top and heavier than the freerider pros but it was the water resistance that sold me since I ride in the rain a fair bit.
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I know they are a bit over the top and heavier than the freerider pros but it was the water resistance that sold me since I ride in the rain a fair bit.
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This might be a silly question, but can I just run a set of clipless 5-10s on a set of flat pedals? Maybe just take the cleat out?
I’m keen to try some flats but don’t really want to buy a second pair of shoes for something I might not stick with. The sole on the clipless shoes I have seems OK.
I’m keen to try some flats but don’t really want to buy a second pair of shoes for something I might not stick with. The sole on the clipless shoes I have seems OK.
hellmansam
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I never would have thought that pedals were the issue, easy fix and great result !
Edited to add:
Recently bought my first pair of flat specific shoes, Giro Riddance for $175 and so far they are great. Only done a few rides with them and the One Up plastic pedals but no flaws found yet. I used to ride clipless in the pre suspension era (last century) with no issues cornering but now I’m getting back into MTB after a 25 year break so I’ve left my old SPD’s in the shed while I get a good handle on the limits of grip and control of the awesome modern bike and tyres. And recalibrating my ideas of what’s possible with my 50 yo reflexes
Edited to add:
Recently bought my first pair of flat specific shoes, Giro Riddance for $175 and so far they are great. Only done a few rides with them and the One Up plastic pedals but no flaws found yet. I used to ride clipless in the pre suspension era (last century) with no issues cornering but now I’m getting back into MTB after a 25 year break so I’ve left my old SPD’s in the shed while I get a good handle on the limits of grip and control of the awesome modern bike and tyres. And recalibrating my ideas of what’s possible with my 50 yo reflexes
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beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
I use the 5-10 Freerider High-tops. Surprisingly, still enough flexibility to move the foot around easily, but with a bit more ankle support and protection.
And after absolutely nailing a rock toes-first doing about 35kph at Falls Creek (landed wide from a jump), can vouch for them offering pretty decent toe protection. Had a fair bit of bruising on both knuckles of my big toe, but with normal sneakers I reckon I would've had a couple of broken toes for sure.
A little harder to find, but will defo buy again. A mate also got a pair and loves them as well.
And after absolutely nailing a rock toes-first doing about 35kph at Falls Creek (landed wide from a jump), can vouch for them offering pretty decent toe protection. Had a fair bit of bruising on both knuckles of my big toe, but with normal sneakers I reckon I would've had a couple of broken toes for sure.
A little harder to find, but will defo buy again. A mate also got a pair and loves them as well.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
I can ride either, but some blokes I know who didn't really bunnyhop BMX's as kids and got into cleats because it's more efficient for general mountain bike riding struggle with techy stuff and corners. There's totally a confidence thing going on when you're clipped in, until you get a bit used to the idea that most times you'll clip out before eating shit.
That cornering video is great. With all the berm action on modern tracks now the tendency to lean into the corner instead of holding your body up is an easy mistake to make.
That cornering video is great. With all the berm action on modern tracks now the tendency to lean into the corner instead of holding your body up is an easy mistake to make.
dancaseyimages
Mountain bike pornographer
I did look at the high tops as well, before I bought my ones, very tempting.
I also have to agree with smashing rocks, had a mate follow me down at Stromlo (pretty tame trails most of the time) and stubbed his toe on a rock, not the best 'battle scar' and had him limping for a few days. I've also got some scuffs on my shoes around the toe area but I find its when i'm starting to tire that these things happen.
Edit: I have also never ridden clips, coming from mainly BMX in the early 2000's it was mostly just Vans, Globes etc
Am up the Sunshine Coast at the moment. Went and tried on some specialised 2fo 1.0 flat shoes which fit well and felt pretty comfy and seemed to have a pretty sticky sole. They are $150.
I looked for 510's online free rider pros and they are about $190. I just don't want to risk not getting the right size for that money.
Thoughts?
I looked for 510's online free rider pros and they are about $190. I just don't want to risk not getting the right size for that money.
Thoughts?
dancaseyimages
Mountain bike pornographer
I went to my local store Pushys and tried on the size.
Im all for supporting your LBS but when they dont have the one you want in stock then order online.
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hellmansam
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With inconsistent sizing I'd be hesitant to buy online. I'd look for a place where you can try them on and cop the higher price (within reason)
It's probably worth having a coupla pairs for when they get wet so you can let them dry naturally and have another pair that's not soggy to start out with the next day. I bought my Giro shoes over the counter because I didn't know what was going to fit and feel right without trying them on.
It's probably worth having a coupla pairs for when they get wet so you can let them dry naturally and have another pair that's not soggy to start out with the next day. I bought my Giro shoes over the counter because I didn't know what was going to fit and feel right without trying them on.
Flow-Rider
Burner
I've admired those shoes before but never had any first hand experience with them.
If you're local to Brisbane you can pick orders up at the Pushys warehouse and return them but you'll need to fill out their returns request form before you can bring them back for exchange. The Impacts can be found cheaper and aren't a bad shoe just a bit heavier than some of the others, if you street ride a DJ bike I found that they take a bit of the shock out of the landing when I jump.
dancaseyimages
Mountain bike pornographer
I can agree with you there. I went to Pushys in Canberra and then Summit Cycles in Sydney, who gave me the honest advice to buy the Impacts from MTB direct as they get the pallets before any Aus stores.
While Summit had the freeriders in stock, which they sized me on, the impacts they only had the smaller or bigger size than required. A half size really makes a difference in the fiveten.
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rstim
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Had a set of 2fo 1.0 comfy shoe but not super grippy and the rubber on the sole of mine wore out pretty quickly. Replaced them with a set of freerider pros which I like heaps more.
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We’re they the original first gen ones from a couple of years ago or the recent redesign?
5.10s are one of those products that you buy and own forever.. I've still got 4th hand pairs of Impact high tops from like 2005 that are perfectly rideable.
I've never really worn any out, its usually just I decide I made a fucked decision on the colour (blue and black zebra stripes? bright purple?). The Stealth Rubber is seriously good too.
If you're the type of person who likes to buy it once and buy it right, I think the 5.10s are worth the outlay.
I've never really worn any out, its usually just I decide I made a fucked decision on the colour (blue and black zebra stripes? bright purple?). The Stealth Rubber is seriously good too.
If you're the type of person who likes to buy it once and buy it right, I think the 5.10s are worth the outlay.
Yep that’s the dilemma. I only want to buy once but there’s not much stock around in my size (mtbd says none till late Jan) and the ones that are overseas are ugly colour combos.
Also - don't be afraid to experiment more with pedals. The stamps look like they have a good profile, but the pins look quite small. I had some Spank Spike pedals and found it improved them heaps by buying some longer grub screws from a bolt shop and putting them along the front and back edge of the pedals for some extra grip. I've also bought pins from Straitline in the past and used those - it seems most pedals use the same thread for their pins.
It really is personal preference though. Some people are scared of bashing their shins, but it's never been a problem for me since I got 5.10s...
It really is personal preference though. Some people are scared of bashing their shins, but it's never been a problem for me since I got 5.10s...
Warp
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You can... but the sole is stiffer. At least it was on a pair of Maltese Falcons I had. So the shoe does not follow the shape of the pedal as well as a dedicated, softer soled shoe.
For trying out, you should be good to go.
Elpho
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I had always run flats until recently when I had a bad accident with the pins slicing my leg down to the bone, took the plunge and tried clips with the multi-release cleats, have got to say on the trails in my area I do feel faster and more confident on clips than I did on flats, but still have flats on other bikes so go back and forth between the 2 depending on what and where I am riding.