Trump..... (The Sophistry Thread)

Asininedrivel

caviar connoisseur
Sometimes I can’t help thinking this guy is just the ultimate troll. Asking Trump to pardon him, saying he was just doing what Trump told him to do, while Trump is out there denying he was telling them to do it.

Either that or they are all just precious, entitled morons.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01...sidential-pardon-for-us-capitol-raid/13061998

I love the conundrum it putsTrump in. Well, it might if he cared about anyone in the world other than himself.
The blatant demand by his lawyer for Trump to pardon him as "he has clear responsibility" is one of those glorious wedges that's gonna help tear these fuckwits to pieces if enough legalness gets involved. Only a matter of time before an amoral enterprising lawyer sets up a class action against Trump on behalf of the families of those who died that day too.

Even more amusingly, the corporate money hose has been turned off. Can imagine a few Trumpy Republicans reversing their support for Trump once they realise how much their careers will be hampered by no donors, at which point their Trumpy constituents will turn on them, and the circle of schadenfreude goes on...
 

yuley95

soft-arse Yuley is on the lifts again
Sometimes I can’t help thinking this guy is just the ultimate troll. Asking Trump to pardon him, saying he was just doing what Trump told him to do, while Trump is out there denying he was telling them to do it.

Either that or they are all just precious, entitled morons.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01...sidential-pardon-for-us-capitol-raid/13061998

I love the conundrum it putsTrump in. Well, it might if he cared about anyone in the world other than himself.
Interesting move but there’s no way he’ll get a pardon. Trump gives zero shits and takes zero responsibility for those that act in his name (further evidence in how he’s treating Giuliani now). And the angle they’re taking means Trump would have to acknowledge his role in the insurrection to provide the pardon.

As you say - it would be a conundrum... if he was a human.
 

moorey

call me Mia
They all thought that they would get away with it.

When you put on your insta Shaman costume then you sure will be a beacon for attention.

Get the attention you looked for but also the attention of the police. Time to back pedal your way out and blame everyone else for your own actions.

Apparently he is an alien according to the article so I'm sure his attorney can conjure up a way out based on that alone. He is not aware of the laws of this planet and they don't apply to him or something.

Like those people that do a crime and affect other people or end up killing themselves in the process and the bullshit 'tributes' just roll out 'he was a good person blah blah......'
He’s the epitome of the sort of person MAGA haaaaaaaate and vilify.
-‘Genuine Shaman’, aka mystical bullshitter.
-Meditator.
-Eats ONLY organic foods.
-probably vego/vegan. Citation needed.
-Snowflake.
-Blames others for his situation.

But they hail him as a messiah for buying the bullshit of the Shitcunt leader.
 

Lazmo

Old and hopeless
Orange Shjtstain aside...

... with Hookworm taking its IQ sapping toll over time, McCarthyism laying his alarmist groundwork, Murdoch and various evangelicals setting the current narrative ... plus a cowboys and injuns obsession with guns, you know second amendment freedom, duh... honestly, they are toast.

Healthcare = Socialism = yeah, right.

So glad to see him go, but they are beyond the pail at the moment.

Shame really.
 

link1896

Mr Greenfield
JFK's assassination wasn't an assault? Ok.

Note that anyone who goes on (and on) about Trump "achieving more in his term than any President in history" can never actually articulate what any of those achievements are.
That’s very typical of the selfish me me me cohort. Having a narcissistic leader who hurt everyone who didn’t deserve help in these people’s view, fed their deep seeded desire to hurt everyone that wasn’t a “them” in their every day lives. Quite the vicious circle.

The “them” and “us” thing is gobsmacking.
 

Dales Cannon

lightbrain about 4pm
Staff member
More turmoil
More division
More wankers in office
More lies
More genersl bullshit
More rascism
More tax cuts for the rich

and most importantly

More impeachments
 

Asininedrivel

caviar connoisseur
That’s very typical of the selfish me me me cohort. Having a narcissistic leader who hurt everyone who didn’t deserve help in these people’s view, fed their deep seeded desire to hurt everyone that wasn’t a “them” in their every day lives. Quite the vicious circle.

The “them” and “us” thing is gobsmacking.
Touche. So in reality even they know he hasn't done much beyond tax cuts but he hates who they hate (and they know he drives his enemies insane too) so he's essentially a deity to them.

Regarding the "them and us" thing, that's a problem that needs to be tackled from both sides and both extremes need to turn the temperature down, there are plenty of zealots on both ends of the spectrum and all resort to endless labelling and "out group homogeneity bias" (a phrase I learnt at uni and still don't really understand but it sounds cool), feeding each other's growth and hatred as a result.

Turning the temperature down will at least start with Trump's silencing and punishment for his role in the insurrection. I was listening to a thingy that went into the role of social media in all this and unintentional growth it's given to groups like Qanon and the Stop The Stealers by funnelling people into them through algorithms that feed people's beliefs (rather than challenging them with like facts and shit). Countering that may help.
 

Minlak

custom titis
Reports of armed demonstrations at several capitol building across the states and also this - TLDR : demand is far out stripping supply of firearms in USA - and its not just a manufacturing issue it is a massive surge in the number of firearms sold

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