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Jabubu said:
How about this one?

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Professional Bicycle Wheel Truing Stand With Adjustment Rims Dial Indicator And Gauge Set MTB Road Bike Wheel Repair Tools - AliExpress 18

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So $260 was too expensive but $192 + $79 = $271 for the exact same stand is good ?

ozzybmx said:
Even at $260 for stand and ship, its better value than the TS 4.2. They are no Mitutoyo gauges but will be accurate enough for a hack.

Park Tool Professional Wheel Truing Stand TS-4.2 | Wiggle

Buy your Park Tool Professional Wheel Truing Stand TS-4.2 from our Wheel Tools range at Wiggle. $723.99. Free delivery available.
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ozzybmx said:
So $260 was too expensive but $192 + $79 = $271 for the exact same stand is good ?
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There's a second stand in that listing.

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Will be a bit harder to get radial true but otherwise would be ok. But for less money this stand from Cyclingdeal would be better value.
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/venzo-mechanic-bike-bicycle-wheel-truing-foldable/VZ-F33-077

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ozzybmx said:
Even at $260 for stand and ship, its better value than the TS 4.2. They are no Mitutoyo gauges but will be accurate enough for a hack.

Park Tool Professional Wheel Truing Stand TS-4.2 | Wiggle

Buy your Park Tool Professional Wheel Truing Stand TS-4.2 from our Wheel Tools range at Wiggle. $723.99. Free delivery available.
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I've got the Ts2.2 with Mitutoyo gauges. Lovely setup, but the super accurate gauges don't really help. That last 0.5mm is such a pain to tru, I never bother.

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Oddjob said:
But for less money this stand from Cyclingdeal would be better value.
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/venzo-mechanic-bike-bicycle-wheel-truing-foldable/VZ-F33-077

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The cycling deal stand is what I use. It's perfect for QR or bolt up non boost wheels. Thru axles I use a thru-QR adaptor, or end caps if it's hope hubs. It's not fancy, but I've built many wheels with it. It packs flat and out of the way.

Oddjob said:
I've got the Ts2.2 with Mitutoyo gauges. Lovely setup, but the super accurate gauges don't really help. That last 0.5mm is such a pain to tru, I never bother.

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I'm happy enough with around 1mm (or slightly less) tolerance lateral and radial. 0.5mm or less is for the pros!
 
The "super accurate" gauges aren't just about measuring the final result.
You can "see" the whole variation in the rim and aim for the middle of the range.
You will be able to see exactly where the bend starts and start tightening from the first spoke after it.
I used to try and to remove the "high spots" before, but now I aim to straighten the whole bend.

After building wheels with a gauge, I wouldn't go back
 
andrew9 said:
The "super accurate" gauges aren't just about measuring the final result.
You can "see" the whole variation in the rim and aim for the middle of the range.
You will be able to see exactly where the bend starts and start tightening from the first spoke after it.
I used to try and to remove the "high spots" before, but now I aim to straighten the whole bend.

After building wheels with a gauge, I wouldn't go back
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Stop it, I don't need a new stand! I'm happy, happy with the cheapo option!

(Checks piggy bank...)
 
ozzybmx said:
So $260 was too expensive but $192 + $79 = $271 for the exact same stand is good ?
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Ah FFS the old AliExpress bait and switch! My bad.

I thought that full set of XT 8120 brakes looked good value at $120..
 
Oddjob said:
There's a second stand in that listing.

75340152355bdbda58425778b94f898a.jpg


Will be a bit harder to get radial true but otherwise would be ok. But for less money this stand from Cyclingdeal would be better value.
https://www.cyclingdeal.com.au/buy/venzo-mechanic-bike-bicycle-wheel-truing-foldable/VZ-F33-077

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Wow I was gonna say the Park Tool TS8 looks similar (but more solid), and doesn't cost much more... but then I checked the price and it is now over double what I paid 6 years ago... The single sided stands work very well and are made much easier with a wheel dishing gauge when used in conjunction. I just bought a cheapy brand X dishing guage and it works well.
 
ozzybmx said:
That's a shit piece of bent tin, why would you pay the same postage for that, than the CNC version at $100 more.
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I wouldn't.

I've had the Ts2.2 for almost 10 years. If I was going to buy a stand now, I would definitely get one of the fancy Ali ones.
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Even if the gauges aren't super accurate, at least if they are consistently inaccurate then you can get a good tru. You can also replace with Mitutoyo gauges later.

NB that third gauge can be used to tru disc rotors which is neat.


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teK-- said:
Wow I was gonna say the Park Tool TS8 looks similar (but more solid), and doesn't cost much more... but then I checked the price and it is now over double what I paid 6 years ago... The single sided stands work very well and are made much easier with a wheel dishing gauge when used in conjunction. I just bought a cheapy brand X dishing guage and it works well.
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I was going to grab a dishing tool recently but watched an Ali Clarkson wheel building videos on YT and saw him just spin the wheel around in the stand to check dish. Best trick ever!

 
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Built and trued these last weekend on my cheapo "True-Pro" folding stand
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Thanks @PJO for the rims!

Got them within 0.5mm in all directions.
roundness > even tension

If you arent building wheels often, you can get acceptable results from a cheap stand,
You just have to check, double, triple check every adjustment you make


6 speed on a dishless singlespeed hub:cool:
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ozzybmx said:
Woooo... precision and CNC wheel building porn.

Foot pedal powered truing, laptop tracking and results :cool:

Cost 2 x sets of good wheels at $2350 for the full kit.

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Abbey Bike Tools Introduces THE Truing Stand w/ Optional Islandix Computer Readout System

After six years of iteration, the Abbey Truing Stand finally will see production. Is this the most obsessive stand on the market?
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I can't find the video now but watched one on YouTube a few weeks back of a guy, using a wooden musson type stand. A tension meter with dial gauge connected to his pc and some sort of automated excel spreadsheet. There was also a footpedal connected to the pc so he could put the tension meter on and take the reading. Hi tech but low tech at the same time.

Found it :)
 
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