Which damper upgrade for Rockshox zeb?

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Hi!! Recently got a e-mtb and it has base Rockshox zeb fork. Thinking of changing the damper and thinking of which route to go.
Rockshox 2.1 $460
Rockshox 3 $430
Rockshox 3.1 $580
MRP lift v2 $450usd/700aud shipped
Fast SC5 $1000 from NSR Racing

Are they any other options or do I sack the whole Rockshox and go another fork ( previously had a NSR mezzer pro ).
 
Hi!! Recently got a e-mtb and it has base Rockshox zeb fork. Thinking of changing the damper and thinking of which route to go.
Rockshox 2.1 $460
Rockshox 3 $430
Rockshox 3.1 $580
MRP lift v2 $450usd/700aud shipped
Fast SC5 $1000 from NSR Racing

Are they any other options or do I sack the whole Rockshox and go another fork ( previously had a NSR mezzer pro ).

Jesus, you're already coming off the top of the tree.

I've got the 2.1 and an Avalanche in separate lyrics and a Fast in my Zeb.

If you must have the best the Avalanche is the way to go. The Fast is good, but the Avalanche is other wordly, it's almost unique in being a true digressive setup with a proper LSC blowoff. I haven't checked Avalanche pricing recently, but I can't imagine it would be miles away from the Fast.

The 3.0 is a downgrade from the 2.1. I haven't tried the 3.1.

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What cartridge is currently in it? Some base models are supplied as the 2.1 damper. In that case, just chuck a set of Buttercups in it and tell your mates you're running Ultimate's ;)
 
What cartridge is currently in it? Some base models are supplied as the 2.1 damper. In that case, just chuck a set of Buttercups in it and tell your mates you're running Ultimate's ;)
Has a rush rc damper, compression is open, mid and closed.
 
Not sure if it is compatible with the rush rc damper, but I put a HC97 ($160 from Cyclinic) in mine and it was a heaps better than the original charger 2.1, I also have a Luftkappe on the air side. EDIT: But disregard that, as it doesn't seem like they are available any more.
 
I've had two blue tune Fox 38 V1 MRP Lift dampers fail. The first was DOA. It leaked oil when the bike was turned upside down, and hissed air and oil out of the dial on compression, with a stiff bind when turning the compression dial more than four clicks out. MRP sent me a new one without any hassle.

It felt much better than the stock 22 Grip2 VVC damper, but the second failed after a couple of months. The shims and piston aren't held against a shoulder on the rod by the piston nut. There's a circlip that stops them moving up the shaft instead, and the scoring on the shaft at the gap in the circlip looked like the circlip hadn't ever really been secure enough, and had been pushed up past the groove for the circlip on the shaft when the damper failed with a total loss of compression damping. Also, when I pulled it apart to see what was wrong, I found that turning the LSC dial didn't move the flat ended needle to open the low speed ports on it, it was stuck fully closed. It's possible it never worked, as I only moved one click in from halfway out and then left it. Also, the nut that secures the piston was loose and had almost unthreaded itself. I was pretty much over them at this stage, so didn't bother to sort the failure out.

Months later, out of curiosity I bought a V2 compression assembly after the release and replaced one of the failed V1 assemblies. It uses a tapered needle down at the bolt face rather than the flat end of the rod up at the ports to close the low speed bleed, the piston is different and uses more shims in the stack, but seems to still have the same weaknesses in construction/design the V1 had. The needle seemed to move through it's full range before installation, so that was encouraging, but I've been riding a shockcraft tuned charger 2.1 Zeb with a smashpot so haven't put that fork back on that bike.

Still have a 26 Lyric with an Avalanche damper in it. That was an eye opener for how far ahead of a stock damper it was at the time. The NSR dorado on another bike has been an eye opener too. I'd probably go for the NSR Fast damper for a Zeb given how happy the people I know who have them have been.
 
Finally had some time on the damper and the difference was night and day. Hard to compare to a 3.1 butter cups since I didn't own one but the range is plenty and mid support was excellent with no harshness( 35 lsc , 20 something rebound). Suggested lsc and rebound were spot on. Fortunate enough to purchase a chickadeehill AWK chamber off a mate so now it's pretty much like the previous Manitou mezzer with the 3rd chamber. Was stupid enough to compress the damper upside down before Installing so had to do a rebuild. The rebuild process was easy and straight forward ( followed the YouTube video). Just the ease of the rebuild process alone that I'd recommend this damper.


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p.s just wanted to show the bike 😂
 
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Finally had some time on the damper and the difference was night and day. Hard to compare to a 3.1 butter cups since I didn't own one but the range is plenty and mid support was excellent with no harshness( 35 lsc , 20 something rebound). Suggested lsc and rebound were spot on. Fortunate enough to purchase a chickadeehill AWK chamber off a mate so now it's pretty much like the previous Manitou mezzer with the 3rd chamber. Was stupid enough to compress the damper upside down before Installing so had to do a rebuild. The rebuild process was easy and straight forward ( followed the YouTube video). Just the ease of the rebuild process alone that I'd recommend this damper.


View attachment 420004 p.s just wanted to show the bike 😂

My Google fu is not working. Do you have a link to the video? Interested to see what is involved as Fast say on their website to send to a dealer to service.
 
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