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    Default Fox 'No Flange' wiper seals

    Hey Guys,

    I notice the latest Fox wiper seals have no flange and I'm concerned the seals can be driven in too far as there is no flange to stop against My usual method is to use a section of PVC pipe; however the outside dia of the pipe is slightly less than the outside dia of the seal. Has anyone had experience fitting these new seals? Any tips you can pass on?

    Why do Fox always have to change things? WTF was wrong with the SKF seals?

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    I doubt you'll have an issue with overdriving the seal.

    I've always used pipe or old external bottom bracket cups to drive the seals in. Was having a hell of a time with the new no flange seals ! After 20mins of trying various methods I caved and bought the new seal tool the next day. Bang, straight in.

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    2 forks to service with the new no-flange seal kits, destroyed one of the new flangeless seals with my usual seal-pusher-inner-tool, managed to get one fork done.

    Had to order a new seal kit the next day... ordered the tool as well. As Creaky says, straight in with the tool !
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    Thanks guys, I will order the pusher inerer tool thingamajig...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisJC View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I notice the latest Fox wiper seals have no flange and I'm concerned the seals can be driven in too far as there is no flange to stop against My usual method is to use a section of PVC pipe; however the outside dia of the pipe is slightly less than the outside dia of the seal. Has anyone had experience fitting these new seals? Any tips you can pass on?

    Why do Fox always have to change things? WTF was wrong with the SKF seals?

    Cheers
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    I put a end cap on the PVC tube and cut out the centre and she works well driving the seals in my Pike and 32mm Fox flangeless seals

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark22 View Post
    I put a end cap on the PVC tube and cut out the centre and she works well driving the seals in my Pike and 32mm Fox flangeless seals
    I wondered whether that may work. I have an end cap on my PVC pipe to tap the mallet against.

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    They are a fuck to put in. Imagine the tool would be the go, but I was too stingy to pay the $40 or whatever they wanted. I managed to find a Pvc fitting at bunnings that I cut down to fit. Most critical bit is getting it started perfectly square, otherwise they'll never go in. Once they're started you can bash them in pretty easily till the outside diameter of the seal is level with the top of the lowers. Pretty hard to over drive them cause they're that damn tight.
    Have fun.......and a little patience.

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    The flangeless seals are expensive and look hard to install, so i've just gone with the Racing Bros ones.

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    What's the theory behind flangeless seals? Is is to ensure every seal is damaged upon removal and definitely needs replacement?
    It doesn't make much sense... The flange is handy to remove and refit seals that still have some life left in them. Seems the change was really, unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2DieTrying View Post
    What's the theory behind flangeless seals? Is is to ensure every seal is damaged upon removal and definitely needs replacement?
    It doesn't make much sense... The flange is handy to remove and refit seals that still have some life left in them. Seems the change was really, unnecessary.
    You mean there's some kind of conspiracy???
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