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    Hi All - hopefully tracer owners!

    Got a query about a mad creak when i sit down on the bike ( not seat or post or clamp ).

    So 12 months ago when i bought the Tracer new, i was having a look over it when i got it home and noticed one of the 2 grease nipples was hollow, and the second one was a one way valve (Standard). I assumed that being a brand new bike, this would be as is for a reason - so i left it. I also owned a 'Tracer 2' previously with one hollow grease nipple so thought nothing of it.

    No cause for concern as i kept servicing the bike after every 2 or 3 rides (clean, re-grease and re-torque everything).

    Only after noticing a creaking nearly 12 months later have i pulled it so far apart as to be able to see into the box linkage bearings - that i can notice the pair of bearings that belong to the hollow grease nipple, have 2 cracked balls inside each bearing (i assume because the grease nipple is hollow it lets grease out, and worse - shit in). Despite being vigilant ensuring the hollow grease nipple had a thumb full of grease to seal it before every ride - i couldn't help but to feel this was unnecessary for such a bike.

    Me thinks me shoulda stuck with my gut and replaced hollow grease nipple as soon as i saw it...

    I have emailed Intense twice, called distributors around Melbourne and even tried ordering parts from Overseas. Hence this post.

    Who's arm have i gotta twist to get a maybe on some bearings/box linkages around here??

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    I've got a tracer2 and now a spider275 - wouldn't trust those grease points to be a full service style greasing myself. Theyd definitely add grease to the inside of the box linkage and prevent water getting in, but I can't see them getting enough grease past the inner bearing seal properly? I personally just flick the outer seals off and use my little grease gun to get some grease in there properly.

    One of they guys at ldtr recently had a siezed bearing in his spider, flogged out the linkage and he had to get a new one! Can probably just look at the numbers on the bearing seal and grab some same sized bearings from the local bearing shop, will save you a few bucks on enduro bearings and save you having to get a new linkage.
    Nothing goes over my head, my reflexes are too fast

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    Hit up Pushy's. They recently ran a big clearance sale for intense and may be able to help you out. They generally have a reputation for excellent service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plankosaurus View Post
    I've got a tracer2 and now a spider275 - wouldn't trust those grease points to be a full service style greasing myself. Theyd definitely add grease to the inside of the box linkage and prevent water getting in, but I can't see them getting enough grease past the inner bearing seal properly? I personally just flick the outer seals off and use my little grease gun to get some grease in there properly.

    One of they guys at ldtr recently had a siezed bearing in his spider, flogged out the linkage and he had to get a new one! Can probably just look at the numbers on the bearing seal and grab some same sized bearings from the local bearing shop, will save you a few bucks on enduro bearings and save you having to get a new linkage.
    Thanks for the info and your reply!!

    I am confident in the system that they have chosen as to bearing lubrication, and understand how and why everything is where it is, so have no qualms about weather or not it works. You shouldn't have to flick the black end caps off the bearings, as squeezing enough grease through the One-Way grease nipples will ensure that grease tracks through the internal side of the bearing, pushing any excess grease out through the exterior casing of the bearing and between the black metal outer bearing case (what youre describing).

    These are uncommon bearings and SKF is already expensive enough for normal bearings - i would rest easier knowing that the most expensive bearings, and most functional, have been installed and seated properly.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by pink poodle View Post
    Hit up Pushy's. They recently ran a big clearance sale for intense and may be able to help you out. They generally have a reputation for excellent service.
    Just added a needle to their haystack of enquiries - thanks for the thought, they can only say no!

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    why not contact the place of purchase? if anyone has any reason to help you its them.
    12 months on a set of bearings on an aggressive trail/enduro bike isnt bad,
    What outcome are you hoping for??

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    Hey Chris,

    I've had lots of experience with Tracers, I reckon I've had more experience with Intense bikes than anybody else on this forum. I can tell you the Tracer is an ace bike and will run creak free once you get it sorted. You will need to do some periodical maintenance to keep it running nicely but that's the price you pay for great performance.

    The causes of the creaking issue are:

    - The dust caps that cover the bearings on the lower link MUST be clean, dry and most importantly grit free. If these are greased they will attract dust into the interface and cause the creak. Sometimes people over-grease the axle when re-installing it and it creeps out onto the dust cap, Santa Cruz bikes will do the same as they run the same system. Make sure all 4 dust covers on the lower link are clean and dry and try to keep it that way. If you use the grease gun to purge your bearings you will force grease into the dust cap/frame interface and it will creak.
    - The dropout/frame interface is dirty. Remove rear wheel, then with a 5 or 6mm allen key (don't remember which one) remove the outer bolt that holds the dropout in place. Clean it all up, both dropout and frame area, apply waterproof grease and reinstall. Make sure to loctite the hanger bolt or it will come off.
    - Shock hardware: Make sure the sides of the shock hardware that contact the frame are clean and free of grit. Clean and reapply a small amount of waterproof grease and reinstall. Do the same for shock bolts.

    Edit: DO NOT use non-genuine bearings on your bike, if they are not directional like the Intense ones are they will collapse.

    Hope this helps you sort it out mate, good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plankosaurus View Post
    I've got a tracer2 and now a spider275 - wouldn't trust those grease points to be a full service style greasing myself. Theyd definitely add grease to the inside of the box linkage and prevent water getting in, but I can't see them getting enough grease past the inner bearing seal properly? I personally just flick the outer seals off and use my little grease gun to get some grease in there properly.

    One of they guys at ldtr recently had a siezed bearing in his spider, flogged out the linkage and he had to get a new one! Can probably just look at the numbers on the bearing seal and grab some same sized bearings from the local bearing shop, will save you a few bucks on enduro bearings and save you having to get a new linkage.
    FYI there is no inner seal on the lower link bearings.

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