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    Default E Bike at Cross Country Endurance Event

    Hi Guys,


    I'm after some opinions on this topic. On the weekend an event called the Flight Centre Epic (http://www.cycleepic.com/) was held here in QLD with a race held over a 92km track. This year was my first year doing it and frankly it pushed me to my absolute limit and I have no idea how I managed to get to the finish line.


    Anyway, along the way I was getting stuck behind riders on E bikes on the descents and at the time I was unaware they were on E bikes. After passing them on the descents and making me way to the next climb I am then passed by them and only realise that they were on E bikes.


    Now I'll be honest, I've never been a fan of e bikes but if it gets people outdoors and being active then whatever that's cool but is it wrong to think that riding an E bike in an endurance event (this one took me 7 hours) just feels completely wrong/hollow and cheating? I know it was completely disheartening to see these guys just cruising past pedalling with ease with their music blaring when at the time I was suffering massively from cramp and could barely turn the pedals.


    I've probably come into the situation with a biased viewpoint but happy to be swayed...

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    I believe they are timed as an ebike in a different category so would not effect your position so that's ok. What's not ok is racing alongside everyone else and potentially getting in the way of non-motorbikes. Let them race entirely on their own on another day is my view. Consistently getting passed uphill by a motorbike only to have to try and pass them again on the downhill as they are not a good rider would be extremely frustrating.

    And I hate people playing music through a speaker while racing, fuckwits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stirk View Post
    I believe they are timed as an ebike in a different category so would not effect your position so that's ok. What's not ok is racing alongside everyone else and potentially getting in the way of non-motorbikes. Let them race entirely on their own on another day is my view. Consistently getting passed uphill by a motorbike only to have to try and pass them again on the downhill as they are not a good rider would be extremely frustrating.

    And I hate people playing music through a speaker while racing, fuckwits.

    Yeah pretty much everything this guy said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by teK-- View Post
    Yeah pretty much everything this guy said...
    Agree also. Using an ebike seems to defeat the purpose of racing. I don't see the point.

    The music thing depends on the rider, music, and volume. Can sometimes help on really long lapping rides when a faster rider has tunes playing. Lets riders like me know they're coming and to get out the way. Can also put a tune in your head to keep you going.
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    If they assist someone with a condition or disability get out on a fire road and do some pedalling all well and good.....but


    I will be blunt....they are MOTORCYCLES and should not be at a bicycle event.....and I will extend that to not being used on bicycle specific trails at all.


    *the music thing, you are an idiot to block the ability to hear any up coming/on coming traffic be it dirt or road....sing the songs in your head....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    If they assist someone with a condition or disability get out on a fire road and do some pedalling all well and good.....but


    I will be blunt....they are MOTORCYCLES and should not be at a bicycle event.....and I will extend that to not being used on bicycle specific trails at all.


    *the music thing, you are an idiot to block the ability to hear any up coming/on coming traffic be it dirt or road....sing the songs in your head....
    Bro. They're pedal assisted bicycles and unfortunately here to stay it seems. I agree thou. Different category different day or at least a different start time by at least and hour per 50km marathon


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    Talk to Hayden about your concerns.
    This was the first time they had done it, and they need to see the feedback from Riders. This is pretty typical of most people's epic though - substitute ebike for triathlete or roadie...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugger View Post
    Hi Guys,



    Anyway, along the way I was getting stuck behind riders on E bikes on the descents and at the time I was unaware they were on E bikes. After passing them on the descents and making me way to the next climb I am then passed by them and only realise that they were on E bikes.

    I have the same problem with roadies in XC races, they hold you up on the descents, and smash you on the climbs. That's why I now prefer enduro ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keachy View Post
    Bro. They're pedal assisted bicycles and unfortunately here to stay it seems. I agree thou. Different category different day or at least a different start time by at least and hour per 50km marathon
    I have to wonder if we are at a similar point with them as with other entirely new applications of technology we have seen - when the Prius was released I doubt anyone saw the McLaren P1 coming 15 years later. Thats a slightly different example, but it does make me wonder if the ebikes are just going to get exponentially faster and faster over the next few years until they really are nearly like a sustitute for a dirtbike.

    The fact that you see conversation about the current MTB brakes being insufficent for pulling ebikes up is a concern to me - given the weight is not THAT much more than a regular MTB, it sorta indicates to me that they are already holding much faster speeds for much longer than regular MTBs.

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    I'm strongly considering getting an ebike in coming years. The Merida e160 looks pretty sweet. ATM I pretty much only do gravity/shuttle riding because I just cant/not fit enough to pedal up big hills. I'd love to be able to go out on long trail rides.

    But yeh, I dont agree with racing them at all, especially alongside regular bikes. Kinda defeats the purpose of an endurance race.

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