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    Default anyone have experiance with Pinon gearboxes / pinon equipped bikes?

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    as i have plans for a new bike... :P
    I am looking into a pinon gearbox ( like the zerodes from NZ but not a zerode ! )

    So has anyone ridden a mtb with a pinion box?

    did you like it?
    good bad?
    what about the grip shifter? how did it feel compared to say a normal thumb?

    cheers

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    I've had a Nicolai Helius AC Pinion for a few years now.

    It is brilliant. Much better than a derailleur or a Rohloff for mtbing.

    The grip shift is a non-issue that gets complained about by people who haven't ridden the Pinion gearbox.

    The extra weight is the only downside. The new 12 and 9 speed versions bring the weight down so it's closer to a derailleur set up, but there's no flimsy, expensive derailleur hanging down to get ripped off or bent.

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    cheers

    im not worried about the weight, when im close on 100kgs 1/2 kilo aint going to matter too me
    plus it is down in the BB where, if u had to have it, is the better place

    I have never ridden a grip shift bike, hence asking, i like the idea of being able to change to any gear i like without pedaling

    do u need to adjust the cables at all?
    i know there is a yearly oil change ( like 60ml )

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    Quote Originally Posted by crank1979 View Post
    The grip shift is a non-issue that gets complained about by people who haven't ridden the Pinion gearbox.
    I figured that would be the case. Grip shift was fine untill I got used to paddles, and nobody complains about a moto throttle.

    One day I'll try a gearbox bike, less maintenance, better chainline, weight nice and central, awesome.
    And they'll get cheaper too hopefully.
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    How do you feel about the frictional losses in the gearbox?
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    The Pinion feels like it has less drag than the Rohloff. It feels about the same as a derailleur set up to me, possibly because the chainline is always good. The two change over gears at 6 or 7 and 12 or 13 feel like they have more drag than a derailleur but that's about it.

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    awesome!

    cheers for the info

    now to chat to the builder! :)

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    I also LOVE the idea of a Pinion equipped bike but can't stomach the price for the frames.

    I haven't ridden with one either. From all reports I've read you get used to it very quickly and don't think about it after a few rides.

    Any ideas about what your getting built?

    -Shaun

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoNasty View Post
    I also LOVE the idea of a Pinion equipped bike but can't stomach the price for the frames.

    I haven't ridden with one either. From all reports I've read you get used to it very quickly and don't think about it after a few rides.

    Any ideas about what your getting built?

    -Shaun

    full custom titanium job, locally made , single pivot, the builder can build it with the pinon too :)
    thoughts are 160mm travel front and rear, with 27+ tyres :)
    i want an allrounder, does not have to excell and nything, but able to do everything and with a smile on my dial!
    KISS therom, a pinion g/box with a single piovot = Sweet fuck all in maintainece :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by discofrank View Post
    full custom titanium job, locally made , single pivot, the builder can build it with the pinon too :)
    thoughts are 160mm travel front and rear, with 27+ tyres :)
    i want an allrounder, does not have to excell and nything, but able to do everything and with a smile on my dial!
    KISS therom, a pinion g/box with a single piovot = Sweet fuck all in maintainece :P
    Brilliant!

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